2007 Lions record predictions

Meano.Culpa · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 9

Reply before kickoff against the Raiders on September 9th. Let's see
if we do better than last year (when nobody expected anything worse
than 4-12). I'm not going to see anything in the last two preseason
games that will make me more optimistic, so:

Meano 2 - 14
----
Average TBD

Side note - normalizing the bets from BoDog, here are the odds to win
the NFC North. Other betting sites are comparable.
Bears 60%
Pack 16%
Vikes 13%
Lions 11%

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snapp44 · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 15

In article ,
Meano.Culpa@yahoo.com says...
>
>Reply before kickoff against the Raiders on September 9th. Let's see
>if we do better than last year (when nobody expected anything worse
>than 4-12). I'm not going to see anything in the last two preseason
>games that will make me more optimistic, so:
>
>Meano 2 - 14
> ----
>Average TBD
>
>Side note - normalizing the bets from BoDog, here are the odds to win
>the NFC North. Other betting sites are comparable.
>Bears 60%
>Pack 16%
>Vikes 13%
>Lions 11%
>
8-8 because of too many injuries (No Playoffs)

Dave

Thomas · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 24

Meano.Culpa@yahoo.com wrote:
> Reply before kickoff against the Raiders on September 9th. Let's see
> if we do better than last year (when nobody expected anything worse
> than 4-12). I'm not going to see anything in the last two preseason
> games that will make me more optimistic, so:
>
> Meano 2 - 14
> ----
> Average TBD
>
> Side note - normalizing the bets from BoDog, here are the odds to win
> the NFC North. Other betting sites are comparable.
> Bears 60%
> Pack 16%
> Vikes 13%
> Lions 11%
>

7-9

And we'll pick somewhere around 16th, which is the worst of both worlds.

-Thomas

Andy VanDusen · Joined: 22 Aug 2007 Posts: 1

7-9...a good turn around.

-a
wrote in message @i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> Reply before kickoff against the Raiders on September 9th. Let's see
> if we do better than last year (when nobody expected anything worse
> than 4-12). I'm not going to see anything in the last two preseason
> games that will make me more optimistic, so:
>
> Meano 2 - 14
> ----
> Average TBD
>
> Side note - normalizing the bets from BoDog, here are the odds to win
> the NFC North. Other betting sites are comparable.
> Bears 60%
> Pack 16%
> Vikes 13%
> Lions 11%
>

Sir Creep · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 47

On Aug 20, 9:24 am, Meano.Cu...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Reply before kickoff against the Raiders on September 9th. Let's see
> if we do better than last year (when nobody expected anything worse
> than 4-12). I'm not going to see anything in the last two preseason
> games that will make me more optimistic, so:
>
> Meano 2 - 14
> ----
> Average TBD
>
> Side note - normalizing the bets from BoDog, here are the odds to win
> the NFC North. Other betting sites are comparable.
> Bears 60%
> Pack 16%
> Vikes 13%
> Lions 11%

Oh goodness, a tad early for this thread, but OK, I'll bite.

4-12. They simply haven't addressed their two glaring weaknesses: OL
and DL, and in fact WORSENED the DBs and LBs (every day Lehman is a
Lion, it's a worse day then the day before -- CUT him!)....I don't see
how they'll stop anyone, short of Minnesota, from racking up 24+ pts/
game. What's the record btw? Prepare for the Lion's D to give up 455
points (my prediction w/in a prediction).

Sir Creep

Mort Fromage · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 6

wrote in message @i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> Reply before kickoff against the Raiders on September 9th. Let's see
> if we do better than last year (when nobody expected anything worse
> than 4-12). I'm not going to see anything in the last two preseason
> games that will make me more optimistic, so:
>
> Meano 2 - 14
> ----
> Average TBD
>
> Side note - normalizing the bets from BoDog, here are the odds to win
> the NFC North. Other betting sites are comparable.
> Bears 60%
> Pack 16%
> Vikes 13%
> Lions 11%
>
C'mon, man: show a little optimism, some spirit! Why if the Lions don't go
4-12 this year, I'll be disappointed. Not particularly surprised, but
disappointed. I can't imagine their D will allow any more than 4 wins,
though.

I know Thomas is crossing his fingers and wishing with all his might that
they go 0-16, but that won't happen. He's already said they won't win the
SB this year, so what's the point in winning any games at all? What they
should do is start a different non-Kitna QB every week (except for the bye
week), and then bring Kitna in for his patented 4th quarter meltdown. Think
how proud we'll be when Millen stands first among equals next April. But
you know the Lions: no vision; no true winning spirit; they will simply
refuse to lose all their games to win.

Grey Matters · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 8

"Mort Fromage" wrote in@comcast.com:

> wrote in message
> @i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>> Reply before kickoff against the Raiders on September 9th. Let's see
>> if we do better than last year (when nobody expected anything worse
>> than 4-12). I'm not going to see anything in the last two preseason
>> games that will make me more optimistic, so:
>>
>> Meano 2 - 14
>> ----
>> Average TBD
>>
>> Side note - normalizing the bets from BoDog, here are the odds to win
>> the NFC North. Other betting sites are comparable.
>> Bears 60%
>> Pack 16%
>> Vikes 13%
>> Lions 11%
>>
> C'mon, man: show a little optimism, some spirit! Why if the Lions
> don't go 4-12 this year, I'll be disappointed. Not particularly
> surprised, but disappointed. I can't imagine their D will allow any
> more than 4 wins, though.
>
> I know Thomas is crossing his fingers and wishing with all his might
> that they go 0-16, but that won't happen. He's already said they
> won't win the SB this year, so what's the point in winning any games
> at all? What they should do is start a different non-Kitna QB every
> week (except for the bye week), and then bring Kitna in for his
> patented 4th quarter meltdown. Think how proud we'll be when Millen
> stands first among equals next April. But you know the Lions: no
> vision; no true winning spirit; they will simply refuse to lose all
> their games to win.

6-10.

That will be due to a minor improvement in the offense and somewhat
greater improvement in the defense, in particular at LB and overall
consistency at defense.

I also think the Lions will pick up a lucky win or two to compensate a bit
for their bad luck over the past couple of years in terms of injuries.

The way I see it, the Chiefs few years back with Trent Green threw for
something like 4,500 yards and got 2,000+ yards from their running backs
using a similar offense under Vermeil to what Martz runs now.
Unfortunately, they went 7-9, and I don't see the Lions getting the same
production from their running game.

The offense is also one that puts a lot of pressure on the defense because
the offense will clock a lot of short trips on the field -- ball control
will not be its strong suit. I see the defense wearing out over the long
run, and also not able to control the really good offenses.

At the end of the season, enough people will point to the improvement in
the record to fool themselves into thinking the Lions are a team on the
move. They'll have big holes to fill at QB, OL, DL, DB, RB in 2008 but
will think they're in much better shape than they really are. Millen
won't be gone until 2009 at the earliest.

YooperBoyka · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 9

"Mort Fromage" wrote in message @comcast.com...
> wrote in message
> @i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>> Reply before kickoff against the Raiders on September 9th. Let's see
>> if we do better than last year (when nobody expected anything worse
>> than 4-12). I'm not going to see anything in the last two preseason
>> games that will make me more optimistic, so:
>>
>> Meano 2 - 14
>> ----
>> Average TBD
>>
>> Side note - normalizing the bets from BoDog, here are the odds to win
>> the NFC North. Other betting sites are comparable.
>> Bears 60%
>> Pack 16%
>> Vikes 13%
>> Lions 11%
>>
> C'mon, man: show a little optimism, some spirit! Why if the Lions don't
> go 4-12 this year, I'll be disappointed. Not particularly surprised, but
> disappointed. I can't imagine their D will allow any more than 4 wins,
> though.
>
> I know Thomas is crossing his fingers and wishing with all his might that
> they go 0-16, but that won't happen. He's already said they won't win the
> SB this year, so what's the point in winning any games at all? What they
> should do is start a different non-Kitna QB every week (except for the bye
> week), and then bring Kitna in for his patented 4th quarter meltdown.
> Think how proud we'll be when Millen stands first among equals next April.
> But you know the Lions: no vision; no true winning spirit; they will
> simply refuse to lose all their games to win.

:^)
Yeah, that's it.

Put me down for 5-11.
I have no idea why I'm being so optimistic.

--
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Thomas · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 24

Sir Creep wrote:
> On Aug 20, 9:24 am, Meano.Cu...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> Reply before kickoff against the Raiders on September 9th. Let's see
>> if we do better than last year (when nobody expected anything worse
>> than 4-12). I'm not going to see anything in the last two preseason
>> games that will make me more optimistic, so:
>>
>> Meano 2 - 14
>> ----
>> Average TBD
>>
>> Side note - normalizing the bets from BoDog, here are the odds to win
>> the NFC North. Other betting sites are comparable.
>> Bears 60%
>> Pack 16%
>> Vikes 13%
>> Lions 11%
>
> Oh goodness, a tad early for this thread, but OK, I'll bite.
>
> 4-12. They simply haven't addressed their two glaring weaknesses: OL
> and DL, and in fact WORSENED the DBs and LBs (every day Lehman is a
> Lion, it's a worse day then the day before -- CUT him!)....I don't see
> how they'll stop anyone, short of Minnesota, from racking up 24+ pts/
> game.

Um, Minnesota's got a really good offense.

-Thomas

Thomas · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 24

Mort Fromage wrote:
> wrote in message
> @i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>> Reply before kickoff against the Raiders on September 9th. Let's see
>> if we do better than last year (when nobody expected anything worse
>> than 4-12). I'm not going to see anything in the last two preseason
>> games that will make me more optimistic, so:
>>
>> Meano 2 - 14
>> ----
>> Average TBD
>>
>> Side note - normalizing the bets from BoDog, here are the odds to win
>> the NFC North. Other betting sites are comparable.
>> Bears 60%
>> Pack 16%
>> Vikes 13%
>> Lions 11%
>>
> C'mon, man: show a little optimism, some spirit! Why if the Lions don't go
> 4-12 this year, I'll be disappointed. Not particularly surprised, but
> disappointed. I can't imagine their D will allow any more than 4 wins,
> though.
>
> I know Thomas is crossing his fingers and wishing with all his might that
> they go 0-16, but that won't happen.

Nope. My preference is 16-0. Then 15-1. Then 14-2. Then 13-3. Then 12-4.
Then 11-5. Then 10-6. Then 9-7, assuming they make the playoffs. Then,
as many wins as they can have while still getting the #1 pick.

In other words, I approach things logically and pragmatically.

> He's already said they won't win the
> SB this year,

And who could argue otherwise?

> so what's the point in winning any games at all?

Nobody ever said they shouldn't win any games. You're just talking out
of your ass now.

> What they
> should do is start a different non-Kitna QB every week (except for the bye
> week), and then bring Kitna in for his patented 4th quarter meltdown. Think
> how proud we'll be when Millen stands first among equals next April. But
> you know the Lions: no vision; no true winning spirit; they will simply
> refuse to lose all their games to win.

Enh, in your lame attempt at humor, you did hit on some truth. They
don't have any sort of winning spirit.

-Thomas

Thomas · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 24

Meano.Culpa@yahoo.com wrote:
> Reply before kickoff against the Raiders on September 9th. Let's see
> if we do better than last year (when nobody expected anything worse
> than 4-12). I'm not going to see anything in the last two preseason
> games that will make me more optimistic, so:
>
> Meano 2 - 14
> ----
> Average TBD
>
> Side note - normalizing the bets from BoDog, here are the odds to win
> the NFC North. Other betting sites are comparable.
> Bears 60%
> Pack 16%
> Vikes 13%
> Lions 11%

As much as the imbeciles like to bash me and pretend that I am negative
toward the Lions, I am always the one here who predicts the Lions will
win the most games. I show more optimism toward the team than anyone
else does.

I am predicting 7-9 this season, though they could very well go 9-7 or 10-6.

-Thomas

Robert Solari · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 1

"Thomas" wrote in message $it8$2@news04.infoave.net...
> Meano.Culpa@yahoo.com wrote:
>> Reply before kickoff against the Raiders on September 9th. Let's see
>> if we do better than last year (when nobody expected anything worse
>> than 4-12). I'm not going to see anything in the last two preseason
>> games that will make me more optimistic, so:
>>
>> Meano 2 - 14
>> ----
>> Average TBD
>>
>> Side note - normalizing the bets from BoDog, here are the odds to win
>> the NFC North. Other betting sites are comparable.
>> Bears 60%
>> Pack 16%
>> Vikes 13%
>> Lions 11%
>
> As much as the imbeciles like to bash me and pretend that I am negative
> toward the Lions, I am always the one here who predicts the Lions will win
> the most games. I show more optimism toward the team than anyone else
> does.
>
> I am predicting 7-9 this season, though they could very well go 9-7 or
> 10-6.
>
> -Thomas

they can get 7-9 ---with a LOT of breaks going their way maybe 9-7 max
Bears (both games) , Denver, Bolts, Eagles I see as guaranteed losses
the KC game should be fun might get into the 50's for both teams.

Archie Leach · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 2

Meano.Culpa@yahoo.com wrote:

>Reply before kickoff against the Raiders on September 9th. Let's see
>if we do better than last year (when nobody expected anything worse
>than 4-12). I'm not going to see anything in the last two preseason
>games that will make me more optimistic, so:
>
>Meano 2 - 14

The defense has some liabilities, but Coach Rod is a D-Line guy, so
they will at least play hard, and within the game plan, and come with
a game plan that isn't totally retarded. Not the strong suit, but I
don't think it's going to be quite as pathetic as some think.

The offense is going to be very productive. A _lot_ of talent at all
positions (and yes, the O-Line, who has underachieved, but with a
solid veteran makeup, and an accomplished O-line guy in Jim Coletto,
will be at least above average).

I'm going to go with 9-7, and either just making, or just missing the
playoffs. You just can't ignore the talent on offense (even with a
journeyman QB), and how that can impact what the other team's offense
has to do when they find themselves in a quick hole. Still a couple
years away at least from being a top-of-the-conference team, but, at
-long- last, I think they're on the way up.

Archie Leach · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 2

Grey Matters wrote:

>Unfortunately, they went 7-9, and I don't see the Lions getting the same
>production from their running game.

I disagree. Tatum Bell, T. J. Duckett (and when he gets healthy,
Kevin Jones) is a solid threesome at the running back slot, the
offensive line -will- be much improved (perhaps the most improved
group on the squad), and in any case, the offense will probably
generate their best running game from 3-WR sets--and don't be fooled
into thinking that Martz isn't willing to run the ball. St. Louis
always had seemed to have great success running the ball under Martz,
even if it wasn't necessarily their "marquee" position. It helped
that their featured RB was Marshall Faulk, but still, that offense
scheme opened up HUGE holes for him.

Meano.Culpa · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 9

Reply, including changes if any, before kickoff against the Raiders on
September 9th.

Archie Leach 9 - 7
Robert Solari* 8 - 8
snapp44 8 - 8
Thomas 7 - 9
Andy VanDusen 7 - 9
Grey Matters 6 - 10
Yooper Boyka 5 - 11
Mort Fromage 4 - 12
Sir Creep 4 - 12
Meano 2 - 14
----
Average 6 - 10

* Robert suggests somewhere between 7-9 and 9-7.

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