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red_dog
Joined: 19 Dec 2007 Posts: 113
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 11:14 pm Post subject: Bengals hire Zimmer |
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Tuesday January 15, 2008
CINCINNATI (AP) -- Atlanta Falcons defensive coordinator Mike Zimmer was
hired Tuesday for the same role with the Cincinnati Bengals, who have
been dragged down by their defense for years.
The 51-year-old Zimmer was available because of the Falcons' uncertainty
over their next head coach. The Falcons hired Tom Dimitroff as general
manager on Sunday, and are still looking for a coach to replace Bobby
Petrino, who quit after 13 games.
Zimmer becomes the third defensive coordinator under Marvin Lewis, who
has led the Bengals to the playoffs once during his five seasons as head
coach. Poor defense has been a constant thread.
Defensive coordinator Leslie Frazier was fired after Lewis' second
season. Chuck Bresnahan replaced him for the past three seasons, but
failed to improve a unit that has regularly ranked in the bottom third
of the league.
Zimmer was the Dallas Cowboys' defensive coordinator for seven seasons
before moving to the Falcons last year. Atlanta finished 29th in yards
allowed and gave up 414 points, fourth-most in the NFL.
The Bengals were 27th in yards allowed and gave up 385 points, prompting
them to fire Bresnahan and linebackers coach Ricky Hunley following a
7-9 finish.
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barry
Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 57
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 6:07 am Post subject: Re: Bengals hire Zimmer |
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On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 18:14:59 -0500, red_dog
wrote:
>Tuesday January 15, 2008
>
>CINCINNATI (AP) -- Atlanta Falcons defensive coordinator Mike Zimmer was
>hired Tuesday for the same role with the Cincinnati Bengals, who have
>been dragged down by their defense for years.
>
>The 51-year-old Zimmer was available because of the Falcons' uncertainty
>over their next head coach. The Falcons hired Tom Dimitroff as general
>manager on Sunday, and are still looking for a coach to replace Bobby
>Petrino, who quit after 13 games.
>
>Zimmer becomes the third defensive coordinator under Marvin Lewis, who
>has led the Bengals to the playoffs once during his five seasons as head
>coach. Poor defense has been a constant thread.
>
>Defensive coordinator Leslie Frazier was fired after Lewis' second
>season. Chuck Bresnahan replaced him for the past three seasons, but
>failed to improve a unit that has regularly ranked in the bottom third
>of the league.
>
>Zimmer was the Dallas Cowboys' defensive coordinator for seven seasons
>before moving to the Falcons last year. Atlanta finished 29th in yards
>allowed and gave up 414 points, fourth-most in the NFL.
>
>The Bengals were 27th in yards allowed and gave up 385 points, prompting
>them to fire Bresnahan and linebackers coach Ricky Hunley following a
>7-9 finish.
dare to dream, man, go from a defensive coordinator whose scheme gave
up 24.1 pts a game to a guy whose defensive scheme allowed 25.9 pts a
game. am i missing something here?
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red_dog
Joined: 19 Dec 2007 Posts: 113
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 11:43 am Post subject: Re: Bengals hire Zimmer |
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barry wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 18:14:59 -0500, red_dog
> wrote:
>
>> Tuesday January 15, 2008
>>
>> CINCINNATI (AP) -- Atlanta Falcons defensive coordinator Mike Zimmer was
>> hired Tuesday for the same role with the Cincinnati Bengals, who have
>> been dragged down by their defense for years.
>>
>> The 51-year-old Zimmer was available because of the Falcons' uncertainty
>> over their next head coach. The Falcons hired Tom Dimitroff as general
>> manager on Sunday, and are still looking for a coach to replace Bobby
>> Petrino, who quit after 13 games.
>>
>> Zimmer becomes the third defensive coordinator under Marvin Lewis, who
>> has led the Bengals to the playoffs once during his five seasons as head
>> coach. Poor defense has been a constant thread.
>>
>> Defensive coordinator Leslie Frazier was fired after Lewis' second
>> season. Chuck Bresnahan replaced him for the past three seasons, but
>> failed to improve a unit that has regularly ranked in the bottom third
>> of the league.
>>
>> Zimmer was the Dallas Cowboys' defensive coordinator for seven seasons
>> before moving to the Falcons last year. Atlanta finished 29th in yards
>> allowed and gave up 414 points, fourth-most in the NFL.
>>
>> The Bengals were 27th in yards allowed and gave up 385 points, prompting
>> them to fire Bresnahan and linebackers coach Ricky Hunley following a
>> 7-9 finish.
>
> dare to dream, man, go from a defensive coordinator whose scheme gave
> up 24.1 pts a game to a guy whose defensive scheme allowed 25.9 pts a
> game. am i missing something here?
Must be a Mike Brown thing.
Maybe Bob (Braun) has an insight.  |
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Sarge
Joined: 01 Jan 2008 Posts: 65
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 7:54 pm Post subject: Re: Bengals hire Zimmer |
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"barry" wrote in message @4ax.com...
> On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 18:14:59 -0500, red_dog
> wrote:
>
>>Tuesday January 15, 2008
>>
>>CINCINNATI (AP) -- Atlanta Falcons defensive coordinator Mike Zimmer was
>>hired Tuesday for the same role with the Cincinnati Bengals, who have
>>been dragged down by their defense for years.
>>
>>The 51-year-old Zimmer was available because of the Falcons' uncertainty
>>over their next head coach. The Falcons hired Tom Dimitroff as general
>>manager on Sunday, and are still looking for a coach to replace Bobby
>>Petrino, who quit after 13 games.
>>
>>Zimmer becomes the third defensive coordinator under Marvin Lewis, who
>>has led the Bengals to the playoffs once during his five seasons as head
>>coach. Poor defense has been a constant thread.
>>
>>Defensive coordinator Leslie Frazier was fired after Lewis' second
>>season. Chuck Bresnahan replaced him for the past three seasons, but
>>failed to improve a unit that has regularly ranked in the bottom third
>>of the league.
>>
>>Zimmer was the Dallas Cowboys' defensive coordinator for seven seasons
>>before moving to the Falcons last year. Atlanta finished 29th in yards
>>allowed and gave up 414 points, fourth-most in the NFL.
>>
>>The Bengals were 27th in yards allowed and gave up 385 points, prompting
>>them to fire Bresnahan and linebackers coach Ricky Hunley following a
>>7-9 finish.
>
> dare to dream, man, go from a defensive coordinator whose scheme gave
> up 24.1 pts a game to a guy whose defensive scheme allowed 25.9 pts a
> game. am i missing something here?
Its called the "do something! Anything!" move to appease the natives. |
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barry
Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 57
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 1:48 am Post subject: Re: Bengals hire Zimmer |
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On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 14:54:31 -0600, "Sarge" wrote:
>
>"barry" wrote in message
>@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 18:14:59 -0500, red_dog
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Tuesday January 15, 2008
>>>
>>>CINCINNATI (AP) -- Atlanta Falcons defensive coordinator Mike Zimmer was
>>>hired Tuesday for the same role with the Cincinnati Bengals, who have
>>>been dragged down by their defense for years.
>>>
>>>The 51-year-old Zimmer was available because of the Falcons' uncertainty
>>>over their next head coach. The Falcons hired Tom Dimitroff as general
>>>manager on Sunday, and are still looking for a coach to replace Bobby
>>>Petrino, who quit after 13 games.
>>>
>>>Zimmer becomes the third defensive coordinator under Marvin Lewis, who
>>>has led the Bengals to the playoffs once during his five seasons as head
>>>coach. Poor defense has been a constant thread.
>>>
>>>Defensive coordinator Leslie Frazier was fired after Lewis' second
>>>season. Chuck Bresnahan replaced him for the past three seasons, but
>>>failed to improve a unit that has regularly ranked in the bottom third
>>>of the league.
>>>
>>>Zimmer was the Dallas Cowboys' defensive coordinator for seven seasons
>>>before moving to the Falcons last year. Atlanta finished 29th in yards
>>>allowed and gave up 414 points, fourth-most in the NFL.
>>>
>>>The Bengals were 27th in yards allowed and gave up 385 points, prompting
>>>them to fire Bresnahan and linebackers coach Ricky Hunley following a
>>>7-9 finish.
>>
>> dare to dream, man, go from a defensive coordinator whose scheme gave
>> up 24.1 pts a game to a guy whose defensive scheme allowed 25.9 pts a
>> game. am i missing something here?
>
>Its called the "do something! Anything!" move to appease the natives.
the good thing is that it's cincy.
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red_dog
Joined: 19 Dec 2007 Posts: 113
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 8:53 am Post subject: Re: Bengals hire Zimmer |
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barry wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 14:54:31 -0600, "Sarge" wrote:
>
>> "barry" wrote in message
>> @4ax.com...
>>> On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 18:14:59 -0500, red_dog
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Tuesday January 15, 2008
>>>>
>>>> CINCINNATI (AP) -- Atlanta Falcons defensive coordinator Mike Zimmer was
>>>> hired Tuesday for the same role with the Cincinnati Bengals, who have
>>>> been dragged down by their defense for years.
>>>>
>>>> The 51-year-old Zimmer was available because of the Falcons' uncertainty
>>>> over their next head coach. The Falcons hired Tom Dimitroff as general
>>>> manager on Sunday, and are still looking for a coach to replace Bobby
>>>> Petrino, who quit after 13 games.
>>>>
>>>> Zimmer becomes the third defensive coordinator under Marvin Lewis, who
>>>> has led the Bengals to the playoffs once during his five seasons as head
>>>> coach. Poor defense has been a constant thread.
>>>>
>>>> Defensive coordinator Leslie Frazier was fired after Lewis' second
>>>> season. Chuck Bresnahan replaced him for the past three seasons, but
>>>> failed to improve a unit that has regularly ranked in the bottom third
>>>> of the league.
>>>>
>>>> Zimmer was the Dallas Cowboys' defensive coordinator for seven seasons
>>>> before moving to the Falcons last year. Atlanta finished 29th in yards
>>>> allowed and gave up 414 points, fourth-most in the NFL.
>>>>
>>>> The Bengals were 27th in yards allowed and gave up 385 points, prompting
>>>> them to fire Bresnahan and linebackers coach Ricky Hunley following a
>>>> 7-9 finish.
>>> dare to dream, man, go from a defensive coordinator whose scheme gave
>>> up 24.1 pts a game to a guy whose defensive scheme allowed 25.9 pts a
>>> game. am i missing something here?
>> Its called the "do something! Anything!" move to appease the natives.
>
> the good thing is that it's cincy.
Looks like the hiring of Zimmer wasn't Mike Brown's idea.
It turns out that Marv Lewis has known Mike Zimmer since the early
1980s, when they were assistant coaches in college. Lewis likes Zimmer's
reputation for "coaching toughness."
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barry
Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 57
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 10:07 am Post subject: Re: Bengals hire Zimmer |
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On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 03:53:02 -0500, red_dog
wrote:
>barry wrote:
>> On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 14:54:31 -0600, "Sarge" wrote:
>>
>>> "barry" wrote in message
>>> @4ax.com...
>>>> On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 18:14:59 -0500, red_dog
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Tuesday January 15, 2008
>>>>>
>>>>> CINCINNATI (AP) -- Atlanta Falcons defensive coordinator Mike Zimmer was
>>>>> hired Tuesday for the same role with the Cincinnati Bengals, who have
>>>>> been dragged down by their defense for years.
>>>>>
>>>>> The 51-year-old Zimmer was available because of the Falcons' uncertainty
>>>>> over their next head coach. The Falcons hired Tom Dimitroff as general
>>>>> manager on Sunday, and are still looking for a coach to replace Bobby
>>>>> Petrino, who quit after 13 games.
>>>>>
>>>>> Zimmer becomes the third defensive coordinator under Marvin Lewis, who
>>>>> has led the Bengals to the playoffs once during his five seasons as head
>>>>> coach. Poor defense has been a constant thread.
>>>>>
>>>>> Defensive coordinator Leslie Frazier was fired after Lewis' second
>>>>> season. Chuck Bresnahan replaced him for the past three seasons, but
>>>>> failed to improve a unit that has regularly ranked in the bottom third
>>>>> of the league.
>>>>>
>>>>> Zimmer was the Dallas Cowboys' defensive coordinator for seven seasons
>>>>> before moving to the Falcons last year. Atlanta finished 29th in yards
>>>>> allowed and gave up 414 points, fourth-most in the NFL.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Bengals were 27th in yards allowed and gave up 385 points, prompting
>>>>> them to fire Bresnahan and linebackers coach Ricky Hunley following a
>>>>> 7-9 finish.
>>>> dare to dream, man, go from a defensive coordinator whose scheme gave
>>>> up 24.1 pts a game to a guy whose defensive scheme allowed 25.9 pts a
>>>> game. am i missing something here?
>>> Its called the "do something! Anything!" move to appease the natives.
>>
>> the good thing is that it's cincy.
>
>Looks like the hiring of Zimmer wasn't Mike Brown's idea.
>
>It turns out that Marv Lewis has known Mike Zimmer since the early
>1980s, when they were assistant coaches in college. Lewis likes Zimmer's
>reputation for "coaching toughness."
>
>http://tinyurl.com/23vpwm
if the two coaches have similar philosophies, does that mean they'll
switch to a 3-4? if so, that'd make us the only division with all the
teams playing a 3-4.
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Browns Town
Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 72
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Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 3:37 am Post subject: Re: Bengals hire Zimmer |
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| They should have hired Don Zimmer. |
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red_dog
Joined: 19 Dec 2007 Posts: 113
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Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 8:08 am Post subject: Re: Bengals hire Zimmer |
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Browns Town wrote:
> They should have hired Don Zimmer.
>
>
"We can't run. We can't pass. We can't stop the run.
We can't stop the pass. We can't kick. Other than that,
we're just not a very good football team right now."
- Bruce Coslet, on the Bengals' 1997 season |
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barry
Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 57
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Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 3:46 pm Post subject: Re: Bengals hire Zimmer |
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On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 22:37:15 -0500, "Browns Town"
wrote:
>They should have hired Don Zimmer.
>
the 1978 edition.
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Bob Braun
Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 51
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Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 9:12 pm Post subject: Re: Bengals hire Zimmer |
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"red_dog" wrote in message $Ca7.156@newsfe07.phx...
> barry wrote:
>> On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 18:14:59 -0500, red_dog
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Tuesday January 15, 2008
>>>
>>> CINCINNATI (AP) -- Atlanta Falcons defensive coordinator Mike Zimmer was
>>> hired Tuesday for the same role with the Cincinnati Bengals, who have
>>> been dragged down by their defense for years.
>>>
>>> The 51-year-old Zimmer was available because of the Falcons' uncertainty
>>> over their next head coach. The Falcons hired Tom Dimitroff as general
>>> manager on Sunday, and are still looking for a coach to replace Bobby
>>> Petrino, who quit after 13 games.
>>>
>>> Zimmer becomes the third defensive coordinator under Marvin Lewis, who
>>> has led the Bengals to the playoffs once during his five seasons as head
>>> coach. Poor defense has been a constant thread.
>>>
>>> Defensive coordinator Leslie Frazier was fired after Lewis' second
>>> season. Chuck Bresnahan replaced him for the past three seasons, but
>>> failed to improve a unit that has regularly ranked in the bottom third
>>> of the league.
>>>
>>> Zimmer was the Dallas Cowboys' defensive coordinator for seven seasons
>>> before moving to the Falcons last year. Atlanta finished 29th in yards
>>> allowed and gave up 414 points, fourth-most in the NFL.
>>>
>>> The Bengals were 27th in yards allowed and gave up 385 points, prompting
>>> them to fire Bresnahan and linebackers coach Ricky Hunley following a
>>> 7-9 finish.
>>
>> dare to dream, man, go from a defensive coordinator whose scheme gave
>> up 24.1 pts a game to a guy whose defensive scheme allowed 25.9 pts a
>> game. am i missing something here?
>
> Must be a Mike Brown thing.
> Maybe Bob (Braun) has an insight.
The cheapest way is the best way for Mikey! |
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Bob Braun
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Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 9:14 pm Post subject: Re: Bengals hire Zimmer |
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"Browns Town" wrote in message $hO4.17651@newsfe19.lga...
> They should have hired Don Zimmer.
Actually, I wish the Reds would have.............over Dusty Baker!
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