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Airyx · Joined: 07 Aug 2007 Posts: 26

Last week, Cooley's Roster bonus was guaranteed, which futher spread
out his cap impact.

Also, Randle El, Andre Carter, and Randy Thomas re-structured
(converted base salary into bonus).

After these moves, the total cap hit of the 51 highest paid players
(that's all that count until August) totals just under $120M.

The cap is $116M

Here are the top 10 players against the cap:

Clinton Portis = $8.9M
Jon Jansen = $8.8M
Chris Samuels = $8.3M
Shawn Springs = $7.7M
Mark Brunell = $6.5M
M. Washginton = $6.5M
Griffin = $6.2M
Santana Moss = $5.9M
Randy Thomas = $4.9M <-after last week's re-struc
Brandon Lloyd = $4.2M

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Anonemouse · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 15

"Airyx" wrote in message @j28g2000hsj.googlegroups.com...
> Last week, Cooley's Roster bonus was guaranteed, which futher spread
> out his cap impact.
>
> Also, Randle El, Andre Carter, and Randy Thomas re-structured
> (converted base salary into bonus).
>
> After these moves, the total cap hit of the 51 highest paid players
> (that's all that count until August) totals just under $120M.
>
> The cap is $116M
>
> Here are the top 10 players against the cap:
>
> Clinton Portis = $8.9M
> Jon Jansen = $8.8M
> Chris Samuels = $8.3M
> Shawn Springs = $7.7M
> Mark Brunell = $6.5M
> M. Washginton = $6.5M
> Griffin = $6.2M
> Santana Moss = $5.9M
> Randy Thomas = $4.9M <-after last week's re-struc
> Brandon Lloyd = $4.2M

What's the impact of Brunell retiring?

Airyx · Joined: 07 Aug 2007 Posts: 26

On Feb 19, 1:34 pm, "Anonemouse" wrote:

> What's the impact of Brunell retiring?- Hide quoted text -

Right now, he has a 2008 base salary of $5M + prorated bonus of $1.5M
for a total 2008 cap hit of $6.5M

If he retires before June 1, his cap hit will be that $1.5M prorated
bonus PLUS next year's prorated bonus, also $1.5M, PLUS an 80K
incentive bonus that he earned that is sitting on his 2010 contact
year. That's total of nearly $3.1M (for a guy not on the team).

Total cap savings = $3.4M

-----------------------------------------

If he retires AFTER June 1st.

His cap hit in 2008 is $1.5M, his cap hit in 2009 is $1.6M

-----------------------------------------
Also, the team could invoke the Barry Sanders rule, and have Mark pay
back the 2009 $1.5M, and get that off the books, but they wouldn't do
that.

Jim Carr · Joined: 28 Sep 2007 Posts: 111

Airyx wrote:

> If he retires AFTER June 1st.
>
> His cap hit in 2008 is $1.5M, his cap hit in 2009 is $1.6M

Are you positive? I thought I read somewhere that retirements are not
covered by the June 1 rule, though I don't recall for sure(which is why
I'm asking).

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Diamondback · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 16

Yea, I wouldn't say that the Skins wouldn't make him pay it back either.
Gibbs is back in NASCAR and there's no one to protect Brunell now.

"Jim Carr" wrote in message $497.2936@newsfe14.phx...
> Airyx wrote:
>
>> If he retires AFTER June 1st.
>>
>> His cap hit in 2008 is $1.5M, his cap hit in 2009 is $1.6M
>
> Are you positive? I thought I read somewhere that retirements are not
> covered by the June 1 rule, though I don't recall for sure(which is why
> I'm asking).
>
>
> --
> Write a wise saying and your name will live forever.
> - Anonymous

Jim Carr · Joined: 28 Sep 2007 Posts: 111

Diamondback wrote:
> Yea, I wouldn't say that the Skins wouldn't make him pay it back either.
> Gibbs is back in NASCAR and there's no one to protect Brunell now.

Brunell is not going to retire - he loves to play. The Redskins will
have to release him.

Airyx · Joined: 07 Aug 2007 Posts: 26

On Feb 19, 8:31 pm, Jim Carr wrote:
> Diamondback wrote:
> > Yea, I wouldn't say that the Skins wouldn't make him pay it back either.
> > Gibbs is back in NASCAR and there's no one to protect Brunell now.
>
> Brunell is not going to retire - he loves to play. The Redskins will
> have to release him.

Brunell, being a WCO guy, is just the right guy to tutor Campbell on
the footwork and timing that is required. I bet they restucture him,
and keep him. Maybe they can even talk him into a pay cut.

John Kulp · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 134

On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 07:20:31 -0800 (PST), Airyx
wrote:

>On Feb 19, 8:31=A0pm, Jim Carr wrote:
>> Diamondback wrote:
>> > Yea, I wouldn't say that the Skins wouldn't make him pay it back either.=
>
>> > Gibbs is back in NASCAR and there's no one to protect Brunell now.
>>
>> Brunell is not going to retire - he loves to play. The Redskins will
>> have to release him.
>
>Brunell, being a WCO guy, is just the right guy to tutor Campbell on
>the footwork and timing that is required. I bet they restucture him,
>and keep him. Maybe they can even talk him into a pay cut.

Make him a coach. It's a lot cheaper and he can do the same thing.

Valjean · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 86

If you could make pigs fly, John, getting Brunell to convert to coaching
would be duck soup also.

"John Kulp" wrote in message @news20.forteinc.com...
> On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 07:20:31 -0800 (PST), Airyx
> wrote:
>
>>On Feb 19, 8:31=A0pm, Jim Carr wrote:
>>> Diamondback wrote:
>>> > Yea, I wouldn't say that the Skins wouldn't make him pay it back
>>> > either.=
>>
>>> > Gibbs is back in NASCAR and there's no one to protect Brunell now.
>>>
>>> Brunell is not going to retire - he loves to play. The Redskins will
>>> have to release him.
>>
>>Brunell, being a WCO guy, is just the right guy to tutor Campbell on
>>the footwork and timing that is required. I bet they restucture him,
>>and keep him. Maybe they can even talk him into a pay cut.
>
> Make him a coach. It's a lot cheaper and he can do the same thing.

John Kulp · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 134

On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:46:57 -0500, "Valjean"
wrote:

>If you could make pigs fly, John, getting Brunell to convert to coaching
>would be duck soup also.

Worth a try ain't it? He's not worth much of anything as an actual
backup anymore except for teaching.

Jim Carr · Joined: 28 Sep 2007 Posts: 111

John Kulp wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:46:57 -0500, "Valjean"
> wrote:
>
>> If you could make pigs fly, John, getting Brunell to convert to coaching
>> would be duck soup also.
>
> Worth a try ain't it? He's not worth much of anything as an actual
> backup anymore except for teaching.

He's actually worth more as a backup this year than last year since this
offense plays to his strengths. In preseason last year he had the best
footwork of the three. His body won't hold out for more than four games,
but so what?

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