No Country For Sick Women...

David V. Loewe, Jr · Joined: 22 Aug 2007 Posts: 109

...or anyone else wanting to use private health care, it seems.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/21/world/europe/21britain.html?ex=1361250000&en=1231d3472b9760f3&ei=5124&partner=permalink&exprod=permalink

http://tinyurl.com/2ahlub

"Created 60 years ago as a cornerstone of the British welfare state,
the National Health Service is devoted to the principle of free
medical care for everyone. But recently it has been wrestling with a
problem its founders never anticipated: how to handle patients with
complex illnesses who want to pay for parts of their treatment while
receiving the rest free from the health service."

It's pretty twisted and complicated (and my draw-you-in Subject Header
does not do it justice). It's also pretty near and dear to my heart
because of what I am currently going through.

Please read the *whole* thing.
--
"He can't even run his own life, I'll be damned if he'll run mine!"
-Jonathan Edwards

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Chris Bellomy · Joined: 08 Feb 2008 Posts: 35

Ctrl?/Alt?/Del wrote:

> I don't live in Great Britain, who gives a damn. Oh yeah, please,
> please, don't start talking about your bloody hole again.

Jumpin' Jeebus, man, have you no humanity?

David V. Loewe, Jr · Joined: 22 Aug 2007 Posts: 109

On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 21:54:02 -0600, Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del
wrote:

>Oh yeah, please,
>please, don't start talking about your bloody hole again.

I wasn't...

But, you talked me into it.

The new dressing (AquaCel Ag) seems to be healing it VERY nicely. It's
no longer a hole and the healing is quite accelerated over what was
occurring with dry or wet-to-dry dressings. I'm impressed.
--
"Quantum particles: the dreams that stuff is made of."
- David Moser

jimbrowndoc · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 42

On Feb 22, 9:54 pm, Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del ¤®.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 21:40:59 -0600, "David V. Loewe, Jr"
>
>
>
>
>
> wrote:
> >..or anyone else wanting to use private health care, it seems.
>
> >http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/21/world/europe/21britain.html?ex=1361....
>
> >http://tinyurl.com/2ahlub
>
> >"Created 60 years ago as a cornerstone of the British welfare state,
> >the National Health Service is devoted to the principle of free
> >medical care for everyone. But recently it has been wrestling with a
> >problem its founders never anticipated: how to handle patients with
> >complex illnesses who want to pay for parts of their treatment while
> >receiving the rest free from the health service."
>
> >It's pretty twisted and complicated (and my draw-you-in Subject Header
> >does not do it justice). It's also pretty near and dear to my heart
> >because of what I am currently going through.
>
> >Please read the *whole* thing.
>
> I don't live in Great Britain, who gives a damn. Oh yeah, please,
> please, don't start talking about your bloody hole again.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Slick? Is this you as well?

jimbrowndoc · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 42

On Feb 22, 10:37 pm, "David V. Loewe, Jr"
wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 21:54:02 -0600, Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del
>
> wrote:
> >Oh yeah, please,
> >please, don't start talking about your bloody hole again.
>
> I wasn't...
>
> But, you talked me into it.
>
> The new dressing (AquaCel Ag) seems to be healing it VERY nicely. It's
> no longer a hole and the healing is quite accelerated over what was
> occurring with dry or wet-to-dry dressings. I'm impressed.
> --
> "Quantum particles: the dreams that stuff is made of."
> - David Moser

Not in the same ballpark as yours, but...my mom had an infected cyst
on her back cut out...it went a couple inches deep. She had her own
bloody hole, and it needed sauve daily. She ended up getting my wife
to apply it. My wife was NOT happy.

Just figured 'bammer protested too much.

David V. Loewe, Jr · Joined: 22 Aug 2007 Posts: 109

On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 20:56:37 -0800 (PST), jimbrowndoc@yahoo.com wrote:

>On Feb 22, 10:37 pm, "David V. Loewe, Jr"
>wrote:
>> On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 21:54:02 -0600, Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del
>> wrote:

>> >Oh yeah, please,
>> >please, don't start talking about your bloody hole again.
>>
>> I wasn't...
>>
>> But, you talked me into it.
>>
>> The new dressing (AquaCel Ag) seems to be healing it VERY nicely. It's
>> no longer a hole and the healing is quite accelerated over what was
>> occurring with dry or wet-to-dry dressings. I'm impressed.

>Not in the same ballpark as yours, but...my mom had an infected cyst
>on her back cut out...it went a couple inches deep.

Ouch...

That's deeper than the current bloody hole ever got.

>She had her own
>bloody hole, and it needed sauve daily. She ended up getting my wife
>to apply it. My wife was NOT happy.

She'd (both of them, actually) would probably have loved this AquaCel
Ag stuff. You only have to change it every 2 or 3 days. It's much
more expensive than gauze, but you don't change it as often, the
nurses come out less often and it heals better and faster, so it
actually saves money.

>Just figured 'bammer protested too much.

Yep.
--
"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World
War IV will be fought with sticks and stones."
- Albert Einstein

Trent Woodruff · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 360

>On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 23:48:16 -0600, Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del wrote:
>>On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 05:41:05 GMT, Zaphod Beeblebrox
>>>Disculpa Senora Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del, pero did you really mime the following

>>> I am the good guy.

>>Yeah - and I am Gunga Din.

>Listen, Zaphod, you know good and well that David will rattle and
>prattle on for days about those MF'ing sores on his body if he gets
>started.
>The poor bastard is alone, he has no family to check on him, and he
>feels abandoned. Those types just never stop, it is pity party all
>day and all night. Poor me, I have oozing holes on my body, let's talk
>about it.
>It is disgusting and I just thought I would try to head him off.

About four years ago, I had a blood cyst formed on my neck. It was
just below my right ear, and had swollen to about the circumference of
a quarter. Quite large.

When the doctor cut it out (local anasthesia only), he showed it to
me. It looked like one of those white fruits...can't think of the
name of it. Anyone know?

--

....I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When
you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I
dismiss yours.
- Stephen Roberts

unklbob · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 17

On Feb 23, 1:48 am, Trent Woodruff wrote:
> >On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 23:48:16 -0600, Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del wrote:
> >>On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 05:41:05 GMT, Zaphod Beeblebrox
> >>>Disculpa Senora Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del, pero did you really mime the following
> >>> I am the good guy.
> >>Yeah - and I am Gunga Din.
> >Listen, Zaphod, you know good and well that David will rattle and
> >prattle on for days about those MF'ing sores on his body if he gets
> >started.
> >The poor bastard is alone, he has no family to check on him, and he
> >feels abandoned. Those types just never stop, it is pity party all
> >day and all night. Poor me, I have oozing holes on my body, let's talk
> >about it.
> >It is disgusting and I just thought I would try to head him off.
>
> About four years ago, I had a blood cyst formed on my neck. It was
> just below my right ear, and had swollen to about the circumference of
> a quarter. Quite large.
>
> When the doctor cut it out (local anasthesia only), he showed it to
> me. It looked like one of those white fruits...can't think of the
> name of it. Anyone know?
>
> --
>
> ...I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When
> you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I
> dismiss yours.
> - Stephen Roberts

Lychee nut?

Daniel Edwards · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 5

"David V. Loewe, Jr" wrote in@4ax.com:

> On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 16:39:56 GMT, Daniel Edwards
> wrote:
[snip]
>>It is axiomatic that the UK's NHS is the sux0r. However, in the
>>listing of top health care countries, all of them besides USAia are
>>national ("socialized") medicine countries. So don't build the system
>>like the UK's system. Build it like a good one, like (guessing)
>>Italy, or France.
>
> So... can you delineate for us how those systems are different in
> structure?

No. I am too lazy. From what I've heard, however, it does help to
actually spend money on your NHS, which Britan doesn't do. Since we
currenly spend more money than anybody else (though likely wouldn't in a
government system, because We Oppose Big Government), that may not be as
critical.

--
Daniel Edwards
Memphis, TN

David V. Loewe, Jr · Joined: 22 Aug 2007 Posts: 109

On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 19:07:45 GMT, Daniel Edwards
wrote:

>"David V. Loewe, Jr" wrote:
>> On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 16:39:56 GMT, Daniel Edwards
>> wrote:

>[snip]
>>>It is axiomatic that the UK's NHS is the sux0r. However, in the
>>>listing of top health care countries, all of them besides USAia are
>>>national ("socialized") medicine countries. So don't build the system
>>>like the UK's system. Build it like a good one, like (guessing)
>>>Italy, or France.
>>
>> So... can you delineate for us how those systems are different in
>> structure?
>
>No. I am too lazy. From what I've heard, however, it does help to
>actually spend money on your NHS, which Britan doesn't do. Since we
>currenly spend more money than anybody else (though likely wouldn't in a
>government system, because We Oppose Big Government), that may not be as
>critical.

That is certainly not structural...
--
"I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I
want to be controlling it."
- Clint Eastwood in "Pink Cadillac"

lein · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 14

On Feb 22, 7:40 pm, "David V. Loewe, Jr"
wrote:
> ..or anyone else wanting to use private health care, it seems.
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/21/world/europe/21britain.html?ex=1361...
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2ahlub
>
> "Created 60 years ago as a cornerstone of the British welfare state,
> the National Health Service is devoted to the principle of free
> medical care for everyone. But recently it has been wrestling with a
> problem its founders never anticipated: how to handle patients with
> complex illnesses who want to pay for parts of their treatment while
> receiving the rest free from the health service."
>
> It's pretty twisted and complicated (and my draw-you-in Subject Header
> does not do it justice). It's also pretty near and dear to my heart
> because of what I am currently going through.
>
> Please read the *whole* thing.

Starting with the first sentence "free" healthcare for everybody.
Don't their doctors get paid?

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