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The Shadow
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 2:01 am Post subject: Looking Back: The Gruden years left no foundation for the Ra |
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http://mvn.com/
By Patrick Patterson
Its easy to wax nostalgic over the Jon Gruden era in Oakland. He was a
charismatic coach and the Raiders won consistently during his four years
in Oakland, and he set the table for the Raiders 2002 Super Bowl run.
That was a good time to be a Raider fan, but the soft focus of hindsight
combined with Gruden’s charisma and Chuckie persona make it easy to miss
that the seeds for the recent disasters were planted during his tenure
as head coach. I would love to see another run of success like the
Raiders had whilst Gruden’s omnipresent scowl stalked the sidelines, but
looking at the Silver lining obscures the Black Clouds that were building.
Jon Gruden took over the Oakland Raiders after the Joe Bugal led
disaster that was 1997. Bugal led the Raiders to underachieve their way
to a 4-12 disaster, at that point it was the worst record of the Al
Davis era. Gruden took over primed to lead the Raider franchise to rise
from its ashes like the Phoenix of Myth, and he succeeded beyond
expectations. His third year the Raiders were in the AFC Championship
Game, where a combination of Tony Siragusa’s belly flop on Rich Gannon
and Marquez Pope and Anthony Dorsett’s inability to tackle Shannon
Sharpe cost the Raiders a chance at the Super Bowl. Gruden’s fourth and
final season as the head of the Raiders’ ship ended on a snowy night in
Foxboro.
Those were good times, with the best yet to come. His successor Bill
Calhihan opened up the play book a bit and led the Raiders to Super Bowl
XXXVII where a Gruden led Tampa Bay team devastated the Raiders based on
Gruden’s knowledge of the Raider offense, and Callihan’s ill-advised
plan to change nothing.
“You can go from boom to bust/ from dreams to a bowl of dust”
–from “Between the Wheels” by Rush
Callihan’s second year began the Raiders plunge, from which they have
yet to emerge three coaches and five years later. How did the Raiders go
from boom to bust so fast? What caused them to tumble faster than George
W. Bush’s approval rating?
If you remember, the joke around the league during the run of the early
part of this century was that the Raiders were the NFL’s retirement
home. By 2002, the Raiders were the oldest team in the league. It was
not the culmination of guys who had been Raiders for ages coming
together for an epic final battle. During the Gruden era, the Raiders
were built to win now, with no thoughts of the future. That is an easy
one to pin on Al Davis, as he is the lightning rod for criticism for
everything that is wrong with the world, but looking at the bigger
picture, very few players during the Gruden era were developed. The ones
who carried the team were the aging vets that signed with Oakland for
that last chance at the ring. The guys like Andre Rison, Jerry Rice, Rod
Woodson, Bill Romonowski, etc.
The easy cop out is to blame Al, as he is the one who is most
responsible for player acquisition. Jon Gruden also was big on that
philosophy, as was Bruce Allen. (more on him in a moment.) To show that
it was not just Al, but Gruden’s inability to develop younger players,
just take a look at the Tampa Bay Buccaneers under Gruden. It took him
bringing in Jeff Garcia to fill the role of Rich Gannon and get the Bucs
back in the playoffs.
Gruden and Al had a synergy in their love of giving aging vets their one
last shot. It worked for the short term, but left the Raiders with a
rotting core. The aging vets aged out together in 03 and Gannon had his
career ended in 04, and no one was left waiting in the wings. True,
Davis tried adding pieces to the puzzle, but there was no foundation and
without a foundation, even the greatest skyscraper will come tumbling down.
After Gruden’s rookie season was marred by a series of groin injuries to
quarterbacks Jeff George, David Klingler, and Donald Hollis, Gruden
brought in veteran quarterback Rich Gannon in a move that would pay huge
dividends for the Raiders. The problem is that Gannon was already 34
when the Raiders acquired him, which is nearly a senior citizen in NFL
years. At no time did Gruden make any apparent moves to groom a
successor. He drafted Marques Tuiasosopo to be an heir apparent in 2001,
but Tui never got any game time until Gannon’s injury in ‘03 in the
second and final year of the Callihan era. The bigger question is when
your starting QB is 34 years old, why wait so long to bring in an heir
apparent?
In addition to Gruden’s distaste for playing young players, the second
problem was that the contracts that the aging vets were signing were
heavily back-loaded creating a major salary cap land-mine for the
Raiders. Bruce Allen was adept at getting the Raiders under the cap for
the current season, but the problem was that it was creating a disaster
down the line. The Raiders had dead money from Gannon’s contract on the
books until last year.
I think that the reason that Gruden wanted out at the end of the 01
season was not that he wasn’t getting the control he wanted. I think
that he saw the writing on the wall from what was coming. He knew that
the team was getting up there in age, and it would not take much for the
entire house of cards he had built to come crashing down. Bruce Allen
was out the door not long after Gruden, and as the Raiders’ capologist
he knew damn well what was happening.
Its easy to think, had Gruden not left the Raiders would not in the
shape that they are in now. I have entertained that same thought. The
problem is that the run that Gruden built was based on planned
obsolescence. The Raiders’ team was due for rebuilding by 2003 due to
age, but there was no infrastructure on the 03 team that was a
foundation on which to build. There was no core of youth that could take
the mantle from the aged veterans. It is true that Al Davis was short
sighted thinking that he could reload for 04 and 05, but at that time
the Raiders were only one and two years removed from a Super Bowl.
The good news is that the rebuilding process has finally begun.
Hopefully JaMarcus Russell is everything the Raiders are hoping, and the
core of youth can bring the Raiders success for the next decade.
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Sac D
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 12:00 am Post subject: Re: Looking Back: The Gruden years left no foundation for th |
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Wow! So much all in one single article. This really sums things up.
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Avant Grape
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 8:26 am Post subject: Re: Looking Back: The Gruden years left no foundation for th |
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Sac D wrote:
> Wow! So much all in one single article. This really sums things up.
> -Sac D-
>
>
Perfectly crafted for an Al jocker. Of course hiring Art Shell, signing
and keeping a whole slew of shitty QB's, WR's and linemen had nothing to
do with it. And of course Al has obviously shown a real eye for talent
in the draft.
ROTFLMAO.
Al jockers. Ya kill me.
Last Super Bowl MVP: Marcus Allen.
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Avant Grape
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 8:30 am Post subject: Re: Looking Back: The Gruden years left no foundation for th |
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The Shadow wrote:
> http://mvn.com/
>
>
>
> By Patrick Patterson
>
>
>
>
>
> Its easy to wax nostalgic over the Jon Gruden era in Oakland. He was a
> charismatic coach and the Raiders won consistently during his four years
> in Oakland, and he set the table for the Raiders 2002 Super Bowl run.
> That was a good time to be a Raider fan, but the soft focus of hindsight
> combined with Gruden’s charisma and Chuckie persona make it easy to miss
> that the seeds for the recent disasters were planted during his tenure
> as head coach. I would love to see another run of success like the
> Raiders had whilst Gruden’s omnipresent scowl stalked the sidelines, but
> looking at the Silver lining obscures the Black Clouds that were building.
>
> Jon Gruden took over the Oakland Raiders after the Joe Bugal led
> disaster that was 1997. Bugal led the Raiders to underachieve their way
> to a 4-12 disaster, at that point it was the worst record of the Al
> Davis era. Gruden took over primed to lead the Raider franchise to rise
> from its ashes like the Phoenix of Myth, and he succeeded beyond
> expectations. His third year the Raiders were in the AFC Championship
> Game, where a combination of Tony Siragusa’s belly flop on Rich Gannon
> and Marquez Pope and Anthony Dorsett’s inability to tackle Shannon
> Sharpe cost the Raiders a chance at the Super Bowl. Gruden’s fourth and
> final season as the head of the Raiders’ ship ended on a snowy night in
> Foxboro.
>
> Those were good times, with the best yet to come. His successor Bill
> Calhihan opened up the play book a bit and led the Raiders to Super Bowl
> XXXVII where a Gruden led Tampa Bay team devastated the Raiders based on
> Gruden’s knowledge of the Raider offense, and Callihan’s ill-advised
> plan to change nothing.
>
> “You can go from boom to bust/ from dreams to a bowl of dust”
>
> –from “Between the Wheels” by Rush
>
> Callihan’s second year began the Raiders plunge, from which they have
> yet to emerge three coaches and five years later. How did the Raiders go
> from boom to bust so fast? What caused them to tumble faster than George
> W. Bush’s approval rating?
>
> If you remember, the joke around the league during the run of the early
> part of this century was that the Raiders were the NFL’s retirement
> home. By 2002, the Raiders were the oldest team in the league. It was
> not the culmination of guys who had been Raiders for ages coming
> together for an epic final battle. During the Gruden era, the Raiders
> were built to win now, with no thoughts of the future. That is an easy
> one to pin on Al Davis, as he is the lightning rod for criticism for
> everything that is wrong with the world, but looking at the bigger
> picture, very few players during the Gruden era were developed. The ones
> who carried the team were the aging vets that signed with Oakland for
> that last chance at the ring. The guys like Andre Rison, Jerry Rice, Rod
> Woodson, Bill Romonowski, etc.
>
> The easy cop out is to blame Al, as he is the one who is most
> responsible for player acquisition. Jon Gruden also was big on that
> philosophy, as was Bruce Allen. (more on him in a moment.) To show that
> it was not just Al, but Gruden’s inability to develop younger players,
> just take a look at the Tampa Bay Buccaneers under Gruden. It took him
> bringing in Jeff Garcia to fill the role of Rich Gannon and get the Bucs
> back in the playoffs.
>
> Gruden and Al had a synergy in their love of giving aging vets their one
> last shot. It worked for the short term, but left the Raiders with a
> rotting core. The aging vets aged out together in 03 and Gannon had his
> career ended in 04, and no one was left waiting in the wings. True,
> Davis tried adding pieces to the puzzle, but there was no foundation and
> without a foundation, even the greatest skyscraper will come tumbling down.
>
> After Gruden’s rookie season was marred by a series of groin injuries to
> quarterbacks Jeff George, David Klingler, and Donald Hollis, Gruden
> brought in veteran quarterback Rich Gannon in a move that would pay huge
> dividends for the Raiders. The problem is that Gannon was already 34
> when the Raiders acquired him, which is nearly a senior citizen in NFL
> years. At no time did Gruden make any apparent moves to groom a
> successor. He drafted Marques Tuiasosopo to be an heir apparent in 2001,
> but Tui never got any game time until Gannon’s injury in ‘03 in the
> second and final year of the Callihan era. The bigger question is when
> your starting QB is 34 years old, why wait so long to bring in an heir
> apparent?
>
> In addition to Gruden’s distaste for playing young players, the second
> problem was that the contracts that the aging vets were signing were
> heavily back-loaded creating a major salary cap land-mine for the
> Raiders. Bruce Allen was adept at getting the Raiders under the cap for
> the current season, but the problem was that it was creating a disaster
> down the line. The Raiders had dead money from Gannon’s contract on the
> books until last year.
>
> I think that the reason that Gruden wanted out at the end of the 01
> season was not that he wasn’t getting the control he wanted. I think
> that he saw the writing on the wall from what was coming. He knew that
> the team was getting up there in age, and it would not take much for the
> entire house of cards he had built to come crashing down. Bruce Allen
> was out the door not long after Gruden, and as the Raiders’ capologist
> he knew damn well what was happening.
And yet Allen went to a team with a bigger cap problem. Nice research
by this writer.
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Avant Grape
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 12:42 am Post subject: Re: Looking Back: The Gruden years left no foundation for th |
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Avant Grape wrote:
> The Shadow wrote:
>> http://mvn.com/
>>
>>
>>
>> By Patrick Patterson
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Its easy to wax nostalgic over the Jon Gruden era in Oakland. He was a
>> charismatic coach and the Raiders won consistently during his four
>> years in Oakland, and he set the table for the Raiders 2002 Super Bowl
>> run. That was a good time to be a Raider fan, but the soft focus of
>> hindsight combined with Gruden’s charisma and Chuckie persona make it
>> easy to miss that the seeds for the recent disasters were planted
>> during his tenure as head coach. I would love to see another run of
>> success like the Raiders had whilst Gruden’s omnipresent scowl stalked
>> the sidelines, but looking at the Silver lining obscures the Black
>> Clouds that were building.
>>
>> Jon Gruden took over the Oakland Raiders after the Joe Bugal led
>> disaster that was 1997. Bugal led the Raiders to underachieve their
>> way to a 4-12 disaster, at that point it was the worst record of the
>> Al Davis era. Gruden took over primed to lead the Raider franchise to
>> rise from its ashes like the Phoenix of Myth, and he succeeded beyond
>> expectations. His third year the Raiders were in the AFC Championship
>> Game, where a combination of Tony Siragusa’s belly flop on Rich Gannon
>> and Marquez Pope and Anthony Dorsett’s inability to tackle Shannon
>> Sharpe cost the Raiders a chance at the Super Bowl. Gruden’s fourth
>> and final season as the head of the Raiders’ ship ended on a snowy
>> night in Foxboro.
>>
>> Those were good times, with the best yet to come. His successor Bill
>> Calhihan opened up the play book a bit and led the Raiders to Super
>> Bowl XXXVII where a Gruden led Tampa Bay team devastated the Raiders
>> based on Gruden’s knowledge of the Raider offense, and Callihan’s
>> ill-advised plan to change nothing.
>>
>> “You can go from boom to bust/ from dreams to a bowl of dust”
>>
>> –from “Between the Wheels” by Rush
>>
>> Callihan’s second year began the Raiders plunge, from which they have
>> yet to emerge three coaches and five years later. How did the Raiders
>> go from boom to bust so fast? What caused them to tumble faster than
>> George W. Bush’s approval rating?
>>
>> If you remember, the joke around the league during the run of the
>> early part of this century was that the Raiders were the NFL’s
>> retirement home. By 2002, the Raiders were the oldest team in the
>> league. It was not the culmination of guys who had been Raiders for
>> ages coming together for an epic final battle. During the Gruden era,
>> the Raiders were built to win now, with no thoughts of the future.
>> That is an easy one to pin on Al Davis, as he is the lightning rod for
>> criticism for everything that is wrong with the world, but looking at
>> the bigger picture, very few players during the Gruden era were
>> developed. The ones who carried the team were the aging vets that
>> signed with Oakland for that last chance at the ring. The guys like
>> Andre Rison, Jerry Rice, Rod Woodson, Bill Romonowski, etc.
>>
>> The easy cop out is to blame Al, as he is the one who is most
>> responsible for player acquisition. Jon Gruden also was big on that
>> philosophy, as was Bruce Allen. (more on him in a moment.) To show
>> that it was not just Al, but Gruden’s inability to develop younger
>> players, just take a look at the Tampa Bay Buccaneers under Gruden. It
>> took him bringing in Jeff Garcia to fill the role of Rich Gannon and
>> get the Bucs back in the playoffs.
>>
>> Gruden and Al had a synergy in their love of giving aging vets their
>> one last shot. It worked for the short term, but left the Raiders with
>> a rotting core. The aging vets aged out together in 03 and Gannon had
>> his career ended in 04, and no one was left waiting in the wings.
>> True, Davis tried adding pieces to the puzzle, but there was no
>> foundation and without a foundation, even the greatest skyscraper will
>> come tumbling down.
>>
>> After Gruden’s rookie season was marred by a series of groin injuries
>> to quarterbacks Jeff George, David Klingler, and Donald Hollis, Gruden
>> brought in veteran quarterback Rich Gannon in a move that would pay
>> huge dividends for the Raiders. The problem is that Gannon was already
>> 34 when the Raiders acquired him, which is nearly a senior citizen in
>> NFL years. At no time did Gruden make any apparent moves to groom a
>> successor. He drafted Marques Tuiasosopo to be an heir apparent in
>> 2001, but Tui never got any game time until Gannon’s injury in ‘03 in
>> the second and final year of the Callihan era. The bigger question is
>> when your starting QB is 34 years old, why wait so long to bring in an
>> heir apparent?
>>
>> In addition to Gruden’s distaste for playing young players, the second
>> problem was that the contracts that the aging vets were signing were
>> heavily back-loaded creating a major salary cap land-mine for the
>> Raiders. Bruce Allen was adept at getting the Raiders under the cap
>> for the current season, but the problem was that it was creating a
>> disaster down the line. The Raiders had dead money from Gannon’s
>> contract on the books until last year.
>>
>> I think that the reason that Gruden wanted out at the end of the 01
>> season was not that he wasn’t getting the control he wanted. I think
>> that he saw the writing on the wall from what was coming. He knew that
>> the team was getting up there in age, and it would not take much for
>> the entire house of cards he had built to come crashing down. Bruce
>> Allen was out the door not long after Gruden, and as the Raiders’
>> capologist he knew damn well what was happening.
>
>
> And yet Allen went to a team with a bigger cap problem. Nice research
> by this writer.
http://www.pewterreport.com/articles/view/3818
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Interesting that the Al jockers will swallow any bullshit sports article
written in Al's favor.
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R. J. Salvi
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 8:47 am Post subject: Re: Looking Back: The Gruden years left no foundation for th |
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"Avant Grape" wrote in message $5K1.1906@newssvr12.news.prodigy.net...
> Sac D wrote:
>> Wow! So much all in one single article. This really sums things up.
>> -Sac D-
>
>
> Perfectly crafted for an Al jocker. Of course hiring Art Shell, signing
> and keeping a whole slew of shitty QB's, WR's and linemen had nothing to
> do with it. And of course Al has obviously shown a real eye for talent in
> the draft.
>
> ROTFLMAO.
>
> Al jockers. Ya kill me.
>
> Last Super Bowl MVP: Marcus Allen.
The article mentions nothing of the "old" players Al brought in for 2002:
R. Woodson
J. Parella
S. Adams
B. Romanowski
T. Armstrong
In '03, they were either gone or on IR.
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Gary DeWaay
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 3:00 am Post subject: Re: Looking Back: The Gruden years left no foundation for th |
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R. J. Salvi's at rjsalvi@nospam.ambianceacoustics.com wisdom:
> If you choose to believe it.
>
What part of it do you not believe? That Gruden/Allen/Al didn't fall in
love with aging veterans and almost completely ignored the future (while
mortgaging it with the salary cap)? What young key players did Gruden
have on his last team that helped the Raiders out when they started to
fall apart?
Porter? Oh wait... Gruden hated him.
Tui?
P.Bust?
The best young players he had on the roster we had to get rid of (Barton
and Rod Coleman) because we were in cap hell.
The only other young key player we had was C.Wood... which Gruden had
nothing to do with. This article is dead-on, you just don't want to admit
it.
The key starters the SB year:
Gannon: 37
Garner: 30
Brown: 36
Rice: 40
L. Kennedy: 31
S. Adams: 29
Parella: 33
Romo: 36
R.Wood: 37
T. James: 29 (another cap casualty)
What other key players am I missing? Gibson? Nap Harris (yuck)
Where was the Raiders future?
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Gary DeWaay
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 3:04 am Post subject: Re: Looking Back: The Gruden years left no foundation for th |
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R. J. Salvi's at rjsalvi@nospam.ambianceacoustics.com wisdom:
> "Avant Grape" wrote in message
> $5K1.1906@newssvr12.news.prodigy.net...
> > Sac D wrote:
> >> Wow! So much all in one single article. This really sums things up.
> >> -Sac D-
> >
> >
> > Perfectly crafted for an Al jocker. Of course hiring Art Shell, signing
> > and keeping a whole slew of shitty QB's, WR's and linemen had nothing to
> > do with it. And of course Al has obviously shown a real eye for talent in
> > the draft.
> >
> > ROTFLMAO.
> >
> > Al jockers. Ya kill me.
> >
> > Last Super Bowl MVP: Marcus Allen.
>
> The article mentions nothing of the "old" players Al brought in for 2002:
>
> R. Woodson
> J. Parella
> S. Adams
> B. Romanowski
> T. Armstrong
>
> In '03, they were either gone or on IR.
>
Uhh... the article was about Gruden _AND_ Allen (and Al).
What young players was Gruden (and Allen) grooming for the future RJ?
Name them here: _________________________________
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Gary DeWaay
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 3:16 am Post subject: Re: Looking Back: The Gruden years left no foundation for th |
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R. J. Salvi's at rjsalvi@nospam.ambianceacoustics.com wisdom:
> The article mentions nothing of the "old" players Al brought in for 2002:
>
> R. Woodson
> J. Parella
> S. Adams
> B. Romanowski
> T. Armstrong
>
I guess this isn't part of the "All good things that happened in 2003 was
because of Gruden" category?
lol
Every single one of these were great pickups at the time, but also part of
the Gruden/Allen "win it all now at any cost" mentality. Those are pretty
much the facts.
Do you think it's just a coincidence this is the first time since Gruden
arrived that we have any substantial cap space or something?
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Arkansan_Raider
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:06 am Post subject: Re: Looking Back: The Gruden years left no foundation for th |
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Avant Grape wrote:
> Avant Grape wrote:
>> The Shadow wrote:
>>> http://mvn.com/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> By Patrick Patterson
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Its easy to wax nostalgic over the Jon Gruden era in Oakland. He was
>>> a charismatic coach and the Raiders won consistently during his four
>>> years in Oakland, and he set the table for the Raiders 2002 Super
>>> Bowl run. That was a good time to be a Raider fan, but the soft focus
>>> of hindsight combined with Gruden’s charisma and Chuckie persona make
>>> it easy to miss that the seeds for the recent disasters were planted
>>> during his tenure as head coach. I would love to see another run of
>>> success like the Raiders had whilst Gruden’s omnipresent scowl
>>> stalked the sidelines, but looking at the Silver lining obscures the
>>> Black Clouds that were building.
>>>
>>> Jon Gruden took over the Oakland Raiders after the Joe Bugal led
>>> disaster that was 1997. Bugal led the Raiders to underachieve their
>>> way to a 4-12 disaster, at that point it was the worst record of the
>>> Al Davis era. Gruden took over primed to lead the Raider franchise to
>>> rise from its ashes like the Phoenix of Myth, and he succeeded beyond
>>> expectations. His third year the Raiders were in the AFC Championship
>>> Game, where a combination of Tony Siragusa’s belly flop on Rich
>>> Gannon and Marquez Pope and Anthony Dorsett’s inability to tackle
>>> Shannon Sharpe cost the Raiders a chance at the Super Bowl. Gruden’s
>>> fourth and final season as the head of the Raiders’ ship ended on a
>>> snowy night in Foxboro.
>>>
>>> Those were good times, with the best yet to come. His successor Bill
>>> Calhihan opened up the play book a bit and led the Raiders to Super
>>> Bowl XXXVII where a Gruden led Tampa Bay team devastated the Raiders
>>> based on Gruden’s knowledge of the Raider offense, and Callihan’s
>>> ill-advised plan to change nothing.
>>>
>>> “You can go from boom to bust/ from dreams to a bowl of dust”
>>>
>>> –from “Between the Wheels” by Rush
>>>
>>> Callihan’s second year began the Raiders plunge, from which they have
>>> yet to emerge three coaches and five years later. How did the Raiders
>>> go from boom to bust so fast? What caused them to tumble faster than
>>> George W. Bush’s approval rating?
>>>
>>> If you remember, the joke around the league during the run of the
>>> early part of this century was that the Raiders were the NFL’s
>>> retirement home. By 2002, the Raiders were the oldest team in the
>>> league. It was not the culmination of guys who had been Raiders for
>>> ages coming together for an epic final battle. During the Gruden era,
>>> the Raiders were built to win now, with no thoughts of the future.
>>> That is an easy one to pin on Al Davis, as he is the lightning rod
>>> for criticism for everything that is wrong with the world, but
>>> looking at the bigger picture, very few players during the Gruden era
>>> were developed. The ones who carried the team were the aging vets
>>> that signed with Oakland for that last chance at the ring. The guys
>>> like Andre Rison, Jerry Rice, Rod Woodson, Bill Romonowski, etc.
>>>
>>> The easy cop out is to blame Al, as he is the one who is most
>>> responsible for player acquisition. Jon Gruden also was big on that
>>> philosophy, as was Bruce Allen. (more on him in a moment.) To show
>>> that it was not just Al, but Gruden’s inability to develop younger
>>> players, just take a look at the Tampa Bay Buccaneers under Gruden.
>>> It took him bringing in Jeff Garcia to fill the role of Rich Gannon
>>> and get the Bucs back in the playoffs.
>>>
>>> Gruden and Al had a synergy in their love of giving aging vets their
>>> one last shot. It worked for the short term, but left the Raiders
>>> with a rotting core. The aging vets aged out together in 03 and
>>> Gannon had his career ended in 04, and no one was left waiting in the
>>> wings. True, Davis tried adding pieces to the puzzle, but there was
>>> no foundation and without a foundation, even the greatest skyscraper
>>> will come tumbling down.
>>>
>>> After Gruden’s rookie season was marred by a series of groin injuries
>>> to quarterbacks Jeff George, David Klingler, and Donald Hollis,
>>> Gruden brought in veteran quarterback Rich Gannon in a move that
>>> would pay huge dividends for the Raiders. The problem is that Gannon
>>> was already 34 when the Raiders acquired him, which is nearly a
>>> senior citizen in NFL years. At no time did Gruden make any apparent
>>> moves to groom a successor. He drafted Marques Tuiasosopo to be an
>>> heir apparent in 2001, but Tui never got any game time until Gannon’s
>>> injury in ‘03 in the second and final year of the Callihan era. The
>>> bigger question is when your starting QB is 34 years old, why wait so
>>> long to bring in an heir apparent?
>>>
>>> In addition to Gruden’s distaste for playing young players, the
>>> second problem was that the contracts that the aging vets were
>>> signing were heavily back-loaded creating a major salary cap
>>> land-mine for the Raiders. Bruce Allen was adept at getting the
>>> Raiders under the cap for the current season, but the problem was
>>> that it was creating a disaster down the line. The Raiders had dead
>>> money from Gannon’s contract on the books until last year.
>>>
>>> I think that the reason that Gruden wanted out at the end of the 01
>>> season was not that he wasn’t getting the control he wanted. I think
>>> that he saw the writing on the wall from what was coming. He knew
>>> that the team was getting up there in age, and it would not take much
>>> for the entire house of cards he had built to come crashing down.
>>> Bruce Allen was out the door not long after Gruden, and as the
>>> Raiders’ capologist he knew damn well what was happening.
>>
>>
>> And yet Allen went to a team with a bigger cap problem. Nice research
>> by this writer.
>
>
> http://www.pewterreport.com/articles/view/3818
>
> -------
>
> Interesting that the Al jockers will swallow any bullshit sports article
> written in Al's favor.
>
> -JC
Damn, it really IS a religion for you.
Wow.
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R. J. Salvi
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"Gary DeWaay" wrote in message @news.midco.net...
> R. J. Salvi's at rjsalvi@nospam.ambianceacoustics.com wisdom:
>
>
>
>
>
>> If you choose to believe it.
>>
>
>
> What part of it do you not believe? That Gruden/Allen/Al didn't fall in
> love with aging veterans and almost completely ignored the future (while
> mortgaging it with the salary cap)? What young key players did Gruden
> have on his last team that helped the Raiders out when they started to
> fall apart?
>
> Porter? Oh wait... Gruden hated him.
>
> Tui?
>
> P.Bust?
>
> The best young players he had on the roster we had to get rid of (Barton
> and Rod Coleman) because we were in cap hell.
>
> The only other young key player we had was C.Wood... which Gruden had
> nothing to do with. This article is dead-on, you just don't want to admit
> it.
>
> The key starters the SB year:
>
> Gannon: 37
> Garner: 30
> Brown: 36
> Rice: 40
> L. Kennedy: 31
> S. Adams: 29
> Parella: 33
> Romo: 36
> R.Wood: 37
> T. James: 29 (another cap casualty)
>
>
> What other key players am I missing? Gibson? Nap Harris (yuck)
>
> Where was the Raiders future?
Where was the Raiders future? In Al's hands? In Callahan's hands? In
Turner's hands? In Shell's hands? In Kiffin's hands? Gruden wasn't there.
How much would Al have saved if he had cleaned house after the SB? And IIRC,
you wanted him to. And the argument could be made that if Bruce Allen had
left Oakland the same year as Gruden, the Raiders wouldn't have even made
the SB in '03!...since we are projecting/assuming.
Your supposition is based on the assumption that the roster would not have
changed had Gruden still been there. Your supposition is based on the
assumption that the post-Gruden draft picks, would've been the same had
Gruden still been there. Your supposition is based on the assumption that
our subsequent W/L records would've been the same had Gruden still been
there. And I like how we "had to get rid of" some good players because of
"cap hell" and not because of front office mismanagement. "Oh no! Al would
NEVER make that kind of mistake!" Loyalty is Job #1.
And even better... the Glazers "picked Al's pockets" and mortgaged their
future to get Gruden, and in the six years he's been in TB, he has three
division titles!...with four of those years in true "cap hell." The Raiders
have done what exactly...? Oh yeah, one division title in six years...and
that was with $8 mil. spare cash and a shitload of high draft picks. Uh
yeah, IAGF.
NEWSFLASH!!! The Raiders re-signed defensive guru Rob Ryan. If he was
measured by JD's standards, not only would he have been fired, he'd have
been fined his whole paycheck as well!
Fast forward >>>>> 2008! Kiffin, a master of the WCO at USC, has QB that
can throw the ball 90 yards. Funny thing is, we don't have a receiver on our
squad -- oh wait! Johnny Lee Higgins? -- that can get open at 90 yards!
Russell may be an athletic freak, but currently lacks field discipline and
given his weight, is one jump ball away from a hip injury. Can Kiffin mold
him? Can J-Russ stay healthy? Can he be a big-time NFL QB? Can the Raiders
surround him with enough talent? I have absolutely zero idea.
No Gary, the Raiders aren't where they are because of Gruden. That would be
assigning WAAAAY too much importance and relevance to Gruden, after the
fact. No, the reason the Raiders are set up to fail is because of the "big
man" upstairs.
This article was revisionist history, but you just don't want to admit it.
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Gary DeWaay
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Gary DeWaay's at dewaay2spikeNOT@sio.midco.net wisdom:
> > NEWSFLASH!!! The Raiders re-signed defensive guru Rob Ryan.
>
BTW, this is a lie.
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Avant Grape
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Arkansan_Raider wrote:
> Avant Grape wrote:
>> Avant Grape wrote:
>>> The Shadow wrote:
>>>> http://mvn.com/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> By Patrick Patterson
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Its easy to wax nostalgic over the Jon Gruden era in Oakland. He was
>>>> a charismatic coach and the Raiders won consistently during his four
>>>> years in Oakland, and he set the table for the Raiders 2002 Super
>>>> Bowl run. That was a good time to be a Raider fan, but the soft
>>>> focus of hindsight combined with Gruden’s charisma and Chuckie
>>>> persona make it easy to miss that the seeds for the recent disasters
>>>> were planted during his tenure as head coach. I would love to see
>>>> another run of success like the Raiders had whilst Gruden’s
>>>> omnipresent scowl stalked the sidelines, but looking at the Silver
>>>> lining obscures the Black Clouds that were building.
>>>>
>>>> Jon Gruden took over the Oakland Raiders after the Joe Bugal led
>>>> disaster that was 1997. Bugal led the Raiders to underachieve their
>>>> way to a 4-12 disaster, at that point it was the worst record of the
>>>> Al Davis era. Gruden took over primed to lead the Raider franchise
>>>> to rise from its ashes like the Phoenix of Myth, and he succeeded
>>>> beyond expectations. His third year the Raiders were in the AFC
>>>> Championship Game, where a combination of Tony Siragusa’s belly flop
>>>> on Rich Gannon and Marquez Pope and Anthony Dorsett’s inability to
>>>> tackle Shannon Sharpe cost the Raiders a chance at the Super Bowl.
>>>> Gruden’s fourth and final season as the head of the Raiders’ ship
>>>> ended on a snowy night in Foxboro.
>>>>
>>>> Those were good times, with the best yet to come. His successor Bill
>>>> Calhihan opened up the play book a bit and led the Raiders to Super
>>>> Bowl XXXVII where a Gruden led Tampa Bay team devastated the Raiders
>>>> based on Gruden’s knowledge of the Raider offense, and Callihan’s
>>>> ill-advised plan to change nothing.
>>>>
>>>> “You can go from boom to bust/ from dreams to a bowl of dust”
>>>>
>>>> –from “Between the Wheels” by Rush
>>>>
>>>> Callihan’s second year began the Raiders plunge, from which they
>>>> have yet to emerge three coaches and five years later. How did the
>>>> Raiders go from boom to bust so fast? What caused them to tumble
>>>> faster than George W. Bush’s approval rating?
>>>>
>>>> If you remember, the joke around the league during the run of the
>>>> early part of this century was that the Raiders were the NFL’s
>>>> retirement home. By 2002, the Raiders were the oldest team in the
>>>> league. It was not the culmination of guys who had been Raiders for
>>>> ages coming together for an epic final battle. During the Gruden
>>>> era, the Raiders were built to win now, with no thoughts of the
>>>> future. That is an easy one to pin on Al Davis, as he is the
>>>> lightning rod for criticism for everything that is wrong with the
>>>> world, but looking at the bigger picture, very few players during
>>>> the Gruden era were developed. The ones who carried the team were
>>>> the aging vets that signed with Oakland for that last chance at the
>>>> ring. The guys like Andre Rison, Jerry Rice, Rod Woodson, Bill
>>>> Romonowski, etc.
>>>>
>>>> The easy cop out is to blame Al, as he is the one who is most
>>>> responsible for player acquisition. Jon Gruden also was big on that
>>>> philosophy, as was Bruce Allen. (more on him in a moment.) To show
>>>> that it was not just Al, but Gruden’s inability to develop younger
>>>> players, just take a look at the Tampa Bay Buccaneers under Gruden.
>>>> It took him bringing in Jeff Garcia to fill the role of Rich Gannon
>>>> and get the Bucs back in the playoffs.
>>>>
>>>> Gruden and Al had a synergy in their love of giving aging vets their
>>>> one last shot. It worked for the short term, but left the Raiders
>>>> with a rotting core. The aging vets aged out together in 03 and
>>>> Gannon had his career ended in 04, and no one was left waiting in
>>>> the wings. True, Davis tried adding pieces to the puzzle, but there
>>>> was no foundation and without a foundation, even the greatest
>>>> skyscraper will come tumbling down.
>>>>
>>>> After Gruden’s rookie season was marred by a series of groin
>>>> injuries to quarterbacks Jeff George, David Klingler, and Donald
>>>> Hollis, Gruden brought in veteran quarterback Rich Gannon in a move
>>>> that would pay huge dividends for the Raiders. The problem is that
>>>> Gannon was already 34 when the Raiders acquired him, which is nearly
>>>> a senior citizen in NFL years. At no time did Gruden make any
>>>> apparent moves to groom a successor. He drafted Marques Tuiasosopo
>>>> to be an heir apparent in 2001, but Tui never got any game time
>>>> until Gannon’s injury in ‘03 in the second and final year of the
>>>> Callihan era. The bigger question is when your starting QB is 34
>>>> years old, why wait so long to bring in an heir apparent?
>>>>
>>>> In addition to Gruden’s distaste for playing young players, the
>>>> second problem was that the contracts that the aging vets were
>>>> signing were heavily back-loaded creating a major salary cap
>>>> land-mine for the Raiders. Bruce Allen was adept at getting the
>>>> Raiders under the cap for the current season, but the problem was
>>>> that it was creating a disaster down the line. The Raiders had dead
>>>> money from Gannon’s contract on the books until last year.
>>>>
>>>> I think that the reason that Gruden wanted out at the end of the 01
>>>> season was not that he wasn’t getting the control he wanted. I think
>>>> that he saw the writing on the wall from what was coming. He knew
>>>> that the team was getting up there in age, and it would not take
>>>> much for the entire house of cards he had built to come crashing
>>>> down. Bruce Allen was out the door not long after Gruden, and as the
>>>> Raiders’ capologist he knew damn well what was happening.
>>>
>>>
>>> And yet Allen went to a team with a bigger cap problem. Nice
>>> research by this writer.
>>
>>
>> http://www.pewterreport.com/articles/view/3818
>>
>> -------
>>
>> Interesting that the Al jockers will swallow any bullshit sports
>> article written in Al's favor.
>>
>> -JC
>
> Damn, it really IS a religion for you.
>
> Wow.
Nah. Just a hobby.
Just like yo momma.
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Ironside
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On Feb 14, 6:01 pm, The Shadow wrote:
> http://mvn.com/
>
> By Patrick Patterson
>
> Its easy to wax nostalgic over the Jon Gruden era in Oakland. He was a
> charismatic coach and the Raiders won consistently during his four years
> in Oakland, and he set the table for the Raiders 2002 Super Bowl run.
> That was a good time to be a Raider fan, but the soft focus of hindsight
> combined with Gruden's charisma and Chuckie persona make it easy to miss
> that the seeds for the recent disasters were planted during his tenure
> as head coach. I would love to see another run of success like the
> Raiders had whilst Gruden's omnipresent scowl stalked the sidelines, but
> looking at the Silver lining obscures the Black Clouds that were building.
>
> Jon Gruden took over the Oakland Raiders after the Joe Bugal led
> disaster that was 1997. Bugal led the Raiders to underachieve their way
> to a 4-12 disaster, at that point it was the worst record of the Al
> Davis era. Gruden took over primed to lead the Raider franchise to rise
> from its ashes like the Phoenix of Myth, and he succeeded beyond
> expectations. His third year the Raiders were in the AFC Championship
> Game, where a combination of Tony Siragusa's belly flop on Rich Gannon
> and Marquez Pope and Anthony Dorsett's inability to tackle Shannon
> Sharpe cost the Raiders a chance at the Super Bowl. Gruden's fourth and
> final season as the head of the Raiders' ship ended on a snowy night in
> Foxboro.
>
> Those were good times, with the best yet to come. His successor Bill
> Calhihan opened up the play book a bit and led the Raiders to Super Bowl
> XXXVII where a Gruden led Tampa Bay team devastated the Raiders based on
> Gruden's knowledge of the Raider offense, and Callihan's ill-advised
> plan to change nothing.
>
> "You can go from boom to bust/ from dreams to a bowl of dust"
>
> -from "Between the Wheels" by Rush
>
> Callihan's second year began the Raiders plunge, from which they have
> yet to emerge three coaches and five years later. How did the Raiders go
> from boom to bust so fast? What caused them to tumble faster than George
> W. Bush's approval rating?
>
> If you remember, the joke around the league during the run of the early
> part of this century was that the Raiders were the NFL's retirement
> home. By 2002, the Raiders were the oldest team in the league. It was
> not the culmination of guys who had been Raiders for ages coming
> together for an epic final battle. During the Gruden era, the Raiders
> were built to win now, with no thoughts of the future. That is an easy
> one to pin on Al Davis, as he is the lightning rod for criticism for
> everything that is wrong with the world, but looking at the bigger
> picture, very few players during the Gruden era were developed. The ones
> who carried the team were the aging vets that signed with Oakland for
> that last chance at the ring. The guys like Andre Rison, Jerry Rice, Rod
> Woodson, Bill Romonowski, etc.
>
> The easy cop out is to blame Al, as he is the one who is most
> responsible for player acquisition. Jon Gruden also was big on that
> philosophy, as was Bruce Allen. (more on him in a moment.) To show that
> it was not just Al, but Gruden's inability to develop younger players,
> just take a look at the Tampa Bay Buccaneers under Gruden. It took him
> bringing in Jeff Garcia to fill the role of Rich Gannon and get the Bucs
> back in the playoffs.
>
> Gruden and Al had a synergy in their love of giving aging vets their one
> last shot. It worked for the short term, but left the Raiders with a
> rotting core. The aging vets aged out together in 03 and Gannon had his
> career ended in 04, and no one was left waiting in the wings. True,
> Davis tried adding pieces to the puzzle, but there was no foundation and
> without a foundation, even the greatest skyscraper will come tumbling down.
>
> After Gruden's rookie season was marred by a series of groin injuries to
> quarterbacks Jeff George, David Klingler, and Donald Hollis, Gruden
> brought in veteran quarterback Rich Gannon in a move that would pay huge
> dividends for the Raiders. The problem is that Gannon was already 34
> when the Raiders acquired him, which is nearly a senior citizen in NFL
> years. At no time did Gruden make any apparent moves to groom a
> successor. He drafted Marques Tuiasosopo to be an heir apparent in 2001,
> but Tui never got any game time until Gannon's injury in '03 in the
> second and final year of the Callihan era. The bigger question is when
> your starting QB is 34 years old, why wait so long to bring in an heir
> apparent?
>
> In addition to Gruden's distaste for playing young players, the second
> problem was that the contracts that the aging vets were signing were
> heavily back-loaded creating a major salary cap land-mine for the
> Raiders. Bruce Allen was adept at getting the Raiders under the cap for
> the current season, but the problem was that it was creating a disaster
> down the line. The Raiders had dead money from Gannon's contract on the
> books until last year.
>
> I think that the reason that Gruden wanted out at the end of the 01
> season was not that he wasn't getting the control he wanted. I think
> that he saw the writing on the wall from what was coming. He knew that
> the team was getting up there in age, and it would not take much for the
> entire house of cards he had built to come crashing down. Bruce Allen
> was out the door not long after Gruden, and as the Raiders' capologist
> he knew damn well what was happening.
>
> Its easy to think, had Gruden not left the Raiders would not in the
> shape that they are in now. I have entertained that same thought. The
> problem is that the run that Gruden built was based on planned
> obsolescence. The Raiders' team was due for rebuilding by 2003 due to
> age, but there was no infrastructure on the 03 team that was a
> foundation on which to build. There was no core of youth that could take
> the mantle from the aged veterans. It is true that Al Davis was short
> sighted thinking that he could reload for 04 and 05, but at that time
> the Raiders were only one and two years removed from a Super Bowl.
>
> The good news is that the rebuilding process has finally begun.
> Hopefully JaMarcus Russell is everything the Raiders are hoping, and the
> core of youth can bring the Raiders success for the next decade.
LOL
It's All Gruden's Fault - IAGF
There weren't many good picks in the years leading up to Gruden's era
either.
Two words describe the Raiders drafting history: POOCH SCREW
2006
Michael Huff, DB Texas
Thomas Howard, OLB UTEP
Paul McQuistan, G Weber State
Darnell Bing, S USC
-------------------
Passed on:
Antonio Cromartie, CB Florida State
Joseph Addai, RB LSU
LenDale White, RB USC
Devin Hester, WR/KR Miami (FL)
2005
1. (23) Fabian Washington*, CB Nebraska
2. (3 Stanford Routt, CB Houston
3. (69) Andrew Walter, QB Arizona State
3. (7 Kirk Morrison, ILB San Diego State
6. (175) Anttaj Hawthorne, DT Wisconsin
6. (212) Ryan Riddle, DE California
6. (214) Daven Holly, CB Cincinnati
2004
1 (2)-Robert Gallery, OT Iowa
2 (45)-Jake Grove, C Va Tech
3 (67)-Stuart Schweigert, S Purdue
4 (99)-Carlos Francis, WR Texas Tech
5 (134)-Johnnie Morant, WR Syracuse
6 (166)-Shawn Johnson, DE Delaware
6 (182)-Cody Spencer, ILB N. Texas
7 (245)-Courtney Anderson, TE San Jose St
7 (255)-Andre Sommersell, OLB Colorado St
----------------------
Passed On:
Philip Rivers, QB North Carolina State
Kellen Winslow Jr, TE Miami (Fla)
Ben Roethlisberger, QB Miami (Ohio)
2003
Nnamdi Asomugha CB California
Tyler Brayton DE Colorado (1st Rd)
Teyo Johnson WR Stanford
Sam Williams OLB Fresno State
Justin Fargas RB Southern California (3rd Rd)
Shurron Pierson DE South Florida
Doug Gabriel WR Central Florida (5th Rd)
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Passed on:
Asante Samuel CB Central Florida
2002
Phillip Buchanon CB Miami (Fla)
Napolean Harris OLB Northwestern (1st Rd)
Doug Jolley TE Brigham Young
Langston Walker OT California (2nd Rd)
no 3rd
no 4th
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Passed on:
Clinton Portis RB Miami (Fla)
Antwaan Randle El WR Indiana
Deion Branch WR Louisville
2001
Derrick Gibson, S Florida State
Marques Tuiasosopo - QB Washington
DeLawrence Grant - DE Oregon State
no 4th
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Passed on:
Reggie Wayne, WR Miami
Drew Brees - QB Purdue
Chad Johnson - WR Oregon State
Derrick Burgess - DE Mississippi
2000
Sebastian Janikowski, K Florida State
Jerry Porter, WR West Virginia
no 3rd
Junior Ioane, DT Arizona State
Shane Lechler, P Texas A&M (5th Rd)
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Passed On:
Shaun Alexander, RB Alabama
Brad Meester, C Northern Iowa
1999
Matt Stinchcomb, T Georgia
Tony Bryant, DE Florida State
no 3rd
Dameane Douglas, WR California
1998
Charles Woodson, CB Michigan
Mo Collins, G Florida (1st Rd)
Leon Bender, DT Washington State
Jon Ritchie, FB Stanford
Gennaro DiNapoli, C Virginia Tech
1997
Darrell Russell, DT Southern California
no 2nd
Adam Treu, C Nebraska
Tim Kohn, G Iowa State (3rd Rd)
Chad Levitt, RB Cornell
1996
Rickey Dudley, TE Ohio State
Lance Johnstone, DE Temple
no 3rd
no 4th
1995
Napoleon Kaufman, RB Washington
Barret Robbins, C Texas Christian
Joe Aska, RB Central Oklahoma
Mike Morton, OLB North Carolina
1994
Rob Fredrickson, OLB Michigan State
James Folston, LB Louisiana-Monroe
Calvin Jones, RB Nebraska
Austin Robbins, DT North Carolina
1993
Patrick Bates, S Texas A&M
no 2nd
Billy Joe, Hobert QB Washington
James Trapp, CB Clemson (3rd Rd)
no 4th
1992
Chester McGlockton, DT Clemson
Greg Skrepenak, T Michigan
Todd Kinchen, WR Louisiana State
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Arkansan_Raider
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Avant Grape wrote:
> Arkansan_Raider wrote:
>> Avant Grape wrote:
>>> Avant Grape wrote:
>>>> The Shadow wrote:
>>>>> http://mvn.com/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> By Patrick Patterson
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Its easy to wax nostalgic over the Jon Gruden era in Oakland. He
>>>>> was a charismatic coach and the Raiders won consistently during his
>>>>> four years in Oakland, and he set the table for the Raiders 2002
>>>>> Super Bowl run. That was a good time to be a Raider fan, but the
>>>>> soft focus of hindsight combined with Gruden’s charisma and Chuckie
>>>>> persona make it easy to miss that the seeds for the recent
>>>>> disasters were planted during his tenure as head coach. I would
>>>>> love to see another run of success like the Raiders had whilst
>>>>> Gruden’s omnipresent scowl stalked the sidelines, but looking at
>>>>> the Silver lining obscures the Black Clouds that were building.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jon Gruden took over the Oakland Raiders after the Joe Bugal led
>>>>> disaster that was 1997. Bugal led the Raiders to underachieve their
>>>>> way to a 4-12 disaster, at that point it was the worst record of
>>>>> the Al Davis era. Gruden took over primed to lead the Raider
>>>>> franchise to rise from its ashes like the Phoenix of Myth, and he
>>>>> succeeded beyond expectations. His third year the Raiders were in
>>>>> the AFC Championship Game, where a combination of Tony Siragusa’s
>>>>> belly flop on Rich Gannon and Marquez Pope and Anthony Dorsett’s
>>>>> inability to tackle Shannon Sharpe cost the Raiders a chance at the
>>>>> Super Bowl. Gruden’s fourth and final season as the head of the
>>>>> Raiders’ ship ended on a snowy night in Foxboro.
>>>>>
>>>>> Those were good times, with the best yet to come. His successor
>>>>> Bill Calhihan opened up the play book a bit and led the Raiders to
>>>>> Super Bowl XXXVII where a Gruden led Tampa Bay team devastated the
>>>>> Raiders based on Gruden’s knowledge of the Raider offense, and
>>>>> Callihan’s ill-advised plan to change nothing.
>>>>>
>>>>> “You can go from boom to bust/ from dreams to a bowl of dust”
>>>>>
>>>>> –from “Between the Wheels” by Rush
>>>>>
>>>>> Callihan’s second year began the Raiders plunge, from which they
>>>>> have yet to emerge three coaches and five years later. How did the
>>>>> Raiders go from boom to bust so fast? What caused them to tumble
>>>>> faster than George W. Bush’s approval rating?
>>>>>
>>>>> If you remember, the joke around the league during the run of the
>>>>> early part of this century was that the Raiders were the NFL’s
>>>>> retirement home. By 2002, the Raiders were the oldest team in the
>>>>> league. It was not the culmination of guys who had been Raiders for
>>>>> ages coming together for an epic final battle. During the Gruden
>>>>> era, the Raiders were built to win now, with no thoughts of the
>>>>> future. That is an easy one to pin on Al Davis, as he is the
>>>>> lightning rod for criticism for everything that is wrong with the
>>>>> world, but looking at the bigger picture, very few players during
>>>>> the Gruden era were developed. The ones who carried the team were
>>>>> the aging vets that signed with Oakland for that last chance at the
>>>>> ring. The guys like Andre Rison, Jerry Rice, Rod Woodson, Bill
>>>>> Romonowski, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> The easy cop out is to blame Al, as he is the one who is most
>>>>> responsible for player acquisition. Jon Gruden also was big on that
>>>>> philosophy, as was Bruce Allen. (more on him in a moment.) To show
>>>>> that it was not just Al, but Gruden’s inability to develop younger
>>>>> players, just take a look at the Tampa Bay Buccaneers under Gruden.
>>>>> It took him bringing in Jeff Garcia to fill the role of Rich Gannon
>>>>> and get the Bucs back in the playoffs.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gruden and Al had a synergy in their love of giving aging vets
>>>>> their one last shot. It worked for the short term, but left the
>>>>> Raiders with a rotting core. The aging vets aged out together in 03
>>>>> and Gannon had his career ended in 04, and no one was left waiting
>>>>> in the wings. True, Davis tried adding pieces to the puzzle, but
>>>>> there was no foundation and without a foundation, even the greatest
>>>>> skyscraper will come tumbling down.
>>>>>
>>>>> After Gruden’s rookie season was marred by a series of groin
>>>>> injuries to quarterbacks Jeff George, David Klingler, and Donald
>>>>> Hollis, Gruden brought in veteran quarterback Rich Gannon in a move
>>>>> that would pay huge dividends for the Raiders. The problem is that
>>>>> Gannon was already 34 when the Raiders acquired him, which is
>>>>> nearly a senior citizen in NFL years. At no time did Gruden make
>>>>> any apparent moves to groom a successor. He drafted Marques
>>>>> Tuiasosopo to be an heir apparent in 2001, but Tui never got any
>>>>> game time until Gannon’s injury in ‘03 in the second and final year
>>>>> of the Callihan era. The bigger question is when your starting QB
>>>>> is 34 years old, why wait so long to bring in an heir apparent?
>>>>>
>>>>> In addition to Gruden’s distaste for playing young players, the
>>>>> second problem was that the contracts that the aging vets were
>>>>> signing were heavily back-loaded creating a major salary cap
>>>>> land-mine for the Raiders. Bruce Allen was adept at getting the
>>>>> Raiders under the cap for the current season, but the problem was
>>>>> that it was creating a disaster down the line. The Raiders had dead
>>>>> money from Gannon’s contract on the books until last year.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think that the reason that Gruden wanted out at the end of the 01
>>>>> season was not that he wasn’t getting the control he wanted. I
>>>>> think that he saw the writing on the wall from what was coming. He
>>>>> knew that the team was getting up there in age, and it would not
>>>>> take much for the entire house of cards he had built to come
>>>>> crashing down. Bruce Allen was out the door not long after Gruden,
>>>>> and as the Raiders’ capologist he knew damn well what was happening.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And yet Allen went to a team with a bigger cap problem. Nice
>>>> research by this writer.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.pewterreport.com/articles/view/3818
>>>
>>> -------
>>>
>>> Interesting that the Al jockers will swallow any bullshit sports
>>> article written in Al's favor.
>>>
>>> -JC
>>
>> Damn, it really IS a religion for you.
>>
>> Wow.
>
>
>
> Nah. Just a hobby.
>
> Just like yo momma.
>
> -JC
No, MY momma is a piece of WORK. Ain't no HOBBY about it--she's a
full-time JOB.
LOL
---Jeff
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