Will Michelle Obama be Barrack's "Bill Clinton" burden?

John Rogers · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 152

"What we have learned over this year is that hope is making a
comeback. It is making a comeback. And let me tell you something --
FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY ADULT LIFETIME, I AM REALLY PROUD OF MY
COUNTRY. And not just because Barack has done well, but because I
think people are hungry for change. And I have been desperate to see
our country moving in that direction and just not feeling so alone in
my frustration and disappointment. I've seen people who are hungry to
be unified around some basic common issues, and it's made me proud."

John Rogers
AU Class of 1985
The Al Del Greco of Atlanta

"You say that it is your custom to burn widows. Very
well. We also have a custom: when men burn a woman alive,
we tie a rope around their necks and we hang them. Build
your funeral pyre; beside it, my carpenters will build a
gallows. You may follow your custom. And then we will
follow ours." (General Sir Charles Napier)

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Chris Bellomy · Joined: 08 Feb 2008 Posts: 35

John Rogers wrote:
> "What we have learned over this year is that hope is making a
> comeback. It is making a comeback. And let me tell you something --
> FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY ADULT LIFETIME, I AM REALLY PROUD OF MY
> COUNTRY. And not just because Barack has done well, but because I
> think people are hungry for change. And I have been desperate to see
> our country moving in that direction and just not feeling so alone in
> my frustration and disappointment. I've seen people who are hungry to
> be unified around some basic common issues, and it's made me proud."

Face it, being proud of this country over the last thirty years
is like being proud of the country in "Idiocracy." Pretty much
exactly like it.

Methinks you should probably put your smelling salts away, nut
up, and clue in a little. Just sayin'.

cb

Dan S. · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 55

Chris Bellomy explained on 2/18/2008 :
> John Rogers wrote:
>> "What we have learned over this year is that hope is making a
>> comeback. It is making a comeback. And let me tell you something --
>> FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY ADULT LIFETIME, I AM REALLY PROUD OF MY
>> COUNTRY. And not just because Barack has done well, but because I
>> think people are hungry for change. And I have been desperate to see
>> our country moving in that direction and just not feeling so alone in
>> my frustration and disappointment. I've seen people who are hungry to
>> be unified around some basic common issues, and it's made me proud."
>
> Face it, being proud of this country over the last thirty years
> is like being proud of the country in "Idiocracy." Pretty much
> exactly like it.
>
> Methinks you should probably put your smelling salts away, nut
> up, and clue in a little. Just sayin'.
>
> cb

Well let's put your theory to the test. In the past thirty years, what
have we done? We've come to grips with our multi-cultural roots.
We've continued to improve interacial relations. We've brought access
to information to billions via the Intenet. We've tossed despots out
and made advances in terms of environmental conciousness (and I'm not
talking about global warming alarmism). There's been a spiritual
revival across America and we've made enormous strides in terms of
economic equalibrium with our closest allies across the Atlantic.

We've got a ways to go, but I wouldn't say that the last thirty years
were shamful ...

Chris Bellomy · Joined: 08 Feb 2008 Posts: 35

Dan S. wrote:
> Chris Bellomy explained on 2/18/2008 :
>> John Rogers wrote:
>>> "What we have learned over this year is that hope is making a
>>> comeback. It is making a comeback. And let me tell you something --
>>> FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY ADULT LIFETIME, I AM REALLY PROUD OF MY
>>> COUNTRY. And not just because Barack has done well, but because I
>>> think people are hungry for change. And I have been desperate to see
>>> our country moving in that direction and just not feeling so alone in
>>> my frustration and disappointment. I've seen people who are hungry to
>>> be unified around some basic common issues, and it's made me proud."
>>
>> Face it, being proud of this country over the last thirty years
>> is like being proud of the country in "Idiocracy." Pretty much
>> exactly like it.
>>
>> Methinks you should probably put your smelling salts away, nut
>> up, and clue in a little. Just sayin'.
>>
>> cb
>
> Well let's put your theory to the test. In the past thirty years, what
> have we done? We've come to grips with our multi-cultural roots.

Really? How exactly has that manifested?

> We've continued to improve interacial relations.

Really? How exactly has that manifested?

> We've brought access to information to billions via the Intenet.

Really? That was "us?"

> We've tossed despots out
> and made advances in terms of environmental conciousness (and I'm not
> talking about global warming alarmism).

*spewage*

> There's been a spiritual revival across America

Like I said. Idiocracy. To even imagine for a moment that it's
a spiritual revival that's happened required idiocy so extreme
it deserves applause. *applause*

> and we've made enormous strides in terms of
> economic equalibrium with our closest allies across the Atlantic.

That's a pretty fancy way of saying our standard of living has
declined relative to theirs!

> We've got a ways to go, but I wouldn't say that the last thirty years
> were shamful ...

I guess you wouldn't.

Here, let me spell it out for you:

Reagan Reagan Bush Clinton Clinton Gore Bush.

I rest my case.

cb

Trent Woodruff · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 360

>On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 05:27:43 -0000, Chris Bellomy wrote:
>>Dan S. wrote:

>> We've got a ways to go, but I wouldn't say that the last thirty years
>> were shamful ...

>I guess you wouldn't.
>Here, let me spell it out for you:
>Reagan Reagan Bush Clinton Clinton Gore Bush.
>I rest my case.

Your rested case needs to be woken up.

Reagan wasn't the monster you imagine him to be, nor were any of the
above other than Bush Last. He doesn't get the credit/blame for the
last 30 years.

--

....I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When
you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I
dismiss yours.
- Stephen Roberts

Tom Enright · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 36

On Feb 18, 9:57 pm, John Rogers wrote:
> "What we have learned over this year is that hope is making a
> comeback. It is making a comeback. And let me tell you something --
> FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY ADULT LIFETIME, I AM REALLY PROUD OF MY
> COUNTRY. And not just because Barack has done well, but because I
> think people are hungry for change. And I have been desperate to see
> our country moving in that direction and just not feeling so alone in
> my frustration and disappointment. I've seen people who are hungry to
> be unified around some basic common issues, and it's made me proud."

She's also going to save our souls:

"That is why I am here, because Barack Obama is the only person in
this who understands that. That before we can work on the problems, we
have to fix our souls. Our souls are broken in this nation."

The theocracy is on its way!

The basic dislike for America is something that keeps uber-liberals
from being elected. This is one of the reasons GOP candidates fight
over who is the "real conservative" while DNC candidates avoid the
word "liberal" at all costs.

-Tom Enright

"As if to prove that America has lost its seriousness and sense of
proportion, now we are told that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed deserves the
protection of the U.S. Constitution."
-Wall Street Journal editorial

> John Rogers
> AU Class of 1985
> The Al Del Greco of Atlanta
>
> "You say that it is your custom to burn widows. Very
> well. We also have a custom: when men burn a woman alive,
> we tie a rope around their necks and we hang them. Build
> your funeral pyre; beside it, my carpenters will build a
> gallows. You may follow your custom. And then we will
> follow ours." (General Sir Charles Napier)

the_andrew_smith · Joined: 19 Oct 2007 Posts: 50

On Feb 18, 11:45 pm, Chris Bellomy wrote:
> John Rogers wrote:
> > "What we have learned over this year is that hope is making a
> > comeback. It is making a comeback. And let me tell you something --
> > FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY ADULT LIFETIME, I AM REALLY PROUD OF MY
> > COUNTRY. And not just because Barack has done well, but because I
> > think people are hungry for change. And I have been desperate to see
> > our country moving in that direction and just not feeling so alone in
> > my frustration and disappointment. I've seen people who are hungry to
> > be unified around some basic common issues, and it's made me proud."
>
> Face it, being proud of this country over the last thirty years
> is like being proud of the country in "Idiocracy." Pretty much
> exactly like it.
>
> Methinks you should probably put your smelling salts away, nut
> up, and clue in a little. Just sayin'.

The beautiful and loving peoples of Mother Russia need you.

a.

Tom Enright · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 36

On Feb 19, 8:28 am, "the_andrew_sm...@yahoo.com"
wrote:
> On Feb 18, 11:45 pm, Chris Bellomy wrote:

> > Face it, being proud of this country over the last thirty years
> > is like being proud of the country in "Idiocracy." Pretty much
> > exactly like it.
> >
> > Methinks you should probably put your smelling salts away, nut
> > up, and clue in a little. Just sayin'.

> The beautiful and loving peoples of Mother Russia need you.

Nah...liberals like Bellomy secretly pine for the lifestyle of the
Parisian talking class. They envision their day sipping espresso in
sidewalk cafes while discussing Sartre. All those dirty little people
who do things like off-load their Kenyan coffee beans at Brest, unclog
their toilets and train the pigs to snuffle-out truffles are safely
out of sight. Let them enjoy their tractor-pulls, baseball and John
Wayne but let them do it someplace where their betters not be
inconvenienced.

And what keeps them from this lifestyle? Bauknight's Constitution
Butt-Wiping Phantoms and Bellomy's Make-Believe, Water-Boarding
Troglodytes.

-Tom Enright

"Articulate intellectuals affect the world solely by the use of
persuasive communications. They produce nothing material such as food,
clothing or shelter. They do not organize or manage production or
distribution systems. They do not fight. They do not heal. Instead,
they talk. They express. They influence the world by altering the
behavior of those who do all the things that articulate intellectuals
do not."
-Shannon Love

> a.

J. Hugh Sullivan · Joined: 16 Nov 2007 Posts: 29

On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 04:45:04 -0000, Chris Bellomy
wrote:

>John Rogers wrote:
>> "What we have learned over this year is that hope is making a
>> comeback. It is making a comeback. And let me tell you something --
>> FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY ADULT LIFETIME, I AM REALLY PROUD OF MY
>> COUNTRY. And not just because Barack has done well, but because I
>> think people are hungry for change. And I have been desperate to see
>> our country moving in that direction and just not feeling so alone in
>> my frustration and disappointment. I've seen people who are hungry to
>> be unified around some basic common issues, and it's made me proud."
>
>Face it, being proud of this country over the last thirty years
>is like being proud of the country in "Idiocracy." Pretty much
>exactly like it.
>
>Methinks you should probably put your smelling salts away, nut
>up, and clue in a little. Just sayin'.
>
>cb

Another thought is that the 30 years you fault coincides with the rise
of liberalism since the 50s.

Hugh

Tom Enright · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 36

On Feb 19, 2:02 am, Chris Bellomy wrote:

> And no, I don't think I'm cynical. I'm jaded, but with good
> reason.

If I and my spouse had law degrees from Harvard, a million dollar
income, a huge beautiful home I would think I would have been "proud
of America" before today. Maybe I'm easier to please than Mrs.
Obama? Maybe Mrs. Obama isn't "proud" beacuse she and her husband
don't deserve their treasures?

-Tom Enright

"Barack Obama is an elevator Muzak dinner-theater reduction of all the
glibbest hand-me-down myths in liberal iconography -- which is probably
why he's a shoo-in."
-Mark Steyn

Tom Enright · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 36

On Feb 19, 12:27 am, Chris Bellomy wrote:
> Dan S. wrote:

> > We've continued to improve interacial relations.

> Really? How exactly has that manifested?

A black woman with a Harvard law degree married to a black man with a
Harvard law degree with a million dollar income can claim she hasn't
had reason to be proud of her country?

-Tom Enright

"Among those being briefed, there was a pretty full understanding of
what the CIA was doing. And the reaction in the room was not just
approval, but encouragement."
-Porter Goss chair of the House Intelligence Committee from 1997 to
2004 on briefings attended, among others, by Nancy Pelosi, Sen. Jay
Rockefeller, and former Sen. Bob Graham to the Washington Post
discussing waterboarding.

> cb

J. Hugh Sullivan · Joined: 16 Nov 2007 Posts: 29

On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:57:23 -0500, John Rogers
wrote:

>"What we have learned over this year is that hope is making a
>comeback. It is making a comeback. And let me tell you something --
>FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY ADULT LIFETIME, I AM REALLY PROUD OF MY
>COUNTRY. And not just because Barack has done well, but because I
>think people are hungry for change. And I have been desperate to see
>our country moving in that direction and just not feeling so alone in
>my frustration and disappointment. I've seen people who are hungry to
>be unified around some basic common issues, and it's made me proud."
>
>
>John Rogers
>AU Class of 1985
>The Al Del Greco of Atlanta

As much as I detest the draft dodger (ref: the subject line) I have to
give the devil his due.

Even though he is a coward, a liar and morally corrupt he balanced the
budget (sorta) and I don't remember having to give blood to the IRS
along with my taxes.

That said, liberals are still the worst terrorists we face.

Hugh

Chris Bellomy · Joined: 08 Feb 2008 Posts: 27

Tom Enright wrote:
> On Feb 19, 2:02 am, Chris Bellomy wrote:
>
>
>
>> And no, I don't think I'm cynical. I'm jaded, but with good
>> reason.
>
> If I and my spouse had law degrees from Harvard, a million dollar
> income, a huge beautiful home I would think I would have been "proud
> of America" before today.

Yeah, that's because you're one of those folks who thinks "I got
mine" is a high moral calling.

Chris Bellomy · Joined: 08 Feb 2008 Posts: 27

the_andrew_smith@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Feb 18, 11:45?pm, Chris Bellomy wrote:
>> John Rogers wrote:
>> > "What we have learned over this year is that hope is making a
>> > comeback. It is making a comeback. And let me tell you something --
>> > FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY ADULT LIFETIME, I AM REALLY PROUD OF MY
>> > COUNTRY. And not just because Barack has done well, but because I
>> > think people are hungry for change. And I have been desperate to see
>> > our country moving in that direction and just not feeling so alone in
>> > my frustration and disappointment. I've seen people who are hungry to
>> > be unified around some basic common issues, and it's made me proud."
>>
>> Face it, being proud of this country over the last thirty years
>> is like being proud of the country in "Idiocracy." Pretty much
>> exactly like it.
>>
>> Methinks you should probably put your smelling salts away, nut
>> up, and clue in a little. Just sayin'.
>
> The beautiful and loving peoples of Mother Russia need you.

Uh oh, you're not going to start crying again, are you?

Chris Bellomy · Joined: 08 Feb 2008 Posts: 27

J. Hugh Sullivan wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 04:45:04 -0000, Chris Bellomy
> wrote:
>
>>John Rogers wrote:
>>> "What we have learned over this year is that hope is making a
>>> comeback. It is making a comeback. And let me tell you something --
>>> FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY ADULT LIFETIME, I AM REALLY PROUD OF MY
>>> COUNTRY. And not just because Barack has done well, but because I
>>> think people are hungry for change. And I have been desperate to see
>>> our country moving in that direction and just not feeling so alone in
>>> my frustration and disappointment. I've seen people who are hungry to
>>> be unified around some basic common issues, and it's made me proud."
>>
>>Face it, being proud of this country over the last thirty years
>>is like being proud of the country in "Idiocracy." Pretty much
>>exactly like it.
>>
>>Methinks you should probably put your smelling salts away, nut
>>up, and clue in a little. Just sayin'.
>
> Another thought is that the 30 years you fault coincides with the rise
> of liberalism since the 50s.

Um, Grand Wizard Sullivan? Liberalism crested in 1964. It's been
a steady diet of conservative rule ever since. You can kinda, you
know, check the election results and see that.

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