New claim of taping emerges against Patriots

MBD · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 13

This could be where it comes crashing down for the Pats:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/22/sports/football/22patriots.html?_r=1
&ref=sports&oref=slogin

MBD

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Polarhound · Joined: 18 Feb 2008 Posts: 9

MBD wrote:
> This could be where it comes crashing down for the Pats:

You keep telling yourself that.

Geoff · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 12

Polarhound wrote:
> MBD wrote:
>> This could be where it comes crashing down for the Pats:
>
> You keep telling yourself that.

Every one of the Patriots championships is now tarnished. Belichick is a
liar and a cheat.

night · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 9

Polarhound wrote in @comcast.com:

> MBD wrote:
>> This could be where it comes crashing down for the Pats:
>
> You keep telling yourself that.
>

You keep your denial. If there is any truth to this, regardless of any
legal outcome, the Pats "dynasty" will go down in history as a joke.

Night

Polarhound · Joined: 18 Feb 2008 Posts: 9

night wrote:
> Polarhound wrote in
> @comcast.com:
>
>> MBD wrote:
>>> This could be where it comes crashing down for the Pats:
>> You keep telling yourself that.
>>
>
> You keep your denial. If there is any truth to this, regardless of any
> legal outcome, the Pats "dynasty" will go down in history as a joke.

You mean like the Bills' "dynasty" did?

Claude · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 3

"Polarhound" wrote in message @comcast.com...
> night wrote:
>> Polarhound wrote in
>> @comcast.com:
>>
>>> MBD wrote:
>>>> This could be where it comes crashing down for the Pats:
>>> You keep telling yourself that.
>>>
>>
>> You keep your denial. If there is any truth to this, regardless of any
>> legal outcome, the Pats "dynasty" will go down in history as a joke.
>
> You mean like the Bills' "dynasty" did?

Every one of the Bills losses and wins were honest---without a whiff of
cheating. The same cannot be said of the Patriots. Marv Levy was
recognized both during and after his coaching career as a class act and a
credit to the NFL. The same cannot be said of Belichick.

MBD · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 13

>> This could be where it comes crashing down for the Pats:
>
> You keep telling yourself that.

Most everyone is telling themselves that the Patriots cheated and their SB
wins are a sham. Just like most people knew OJ killed Nicole and Ron,
although he was found not guilty in a court of law.

What I meant by "crashing down" is the NFL officially nullifying their SB
wins. But in the court of public opinion, they've already crashed.

MBD

night · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 9

Polarhound wrote in @comcast.com:

> night wrote:
>> Polarhound wrote in
>> @comcast.com:
>>
>>> MBD wrote:
>>>> This could be where it comes crashing down for the Pats:
>>> You keep telling yourself that.
>>>
>>
>> You keep your denial. If there is any truth to this, regardless of any
>> legal outcome, the Pats "dynasty" will go down in history as a joke.
>
> You mean like the Bills' "dynasty" did?

10-15 years later, the Bills "dynasty" is being recognized for what it was
as Levy, Kelly, and Thomas are already in the HOF. It's only a matter of
time for Reed, Smith, and maybe others.

If Spygate is true, do you honestly think BB, Brady and the rest will even
get considered? Oh, I'm sure somebody will mention their names and try to
make a case of it, but their names will never get on the ballots.

You keep your tainted trophies. 10, 15, hell even 100 years from now, the
impact of the trophies will disappear, and all that will be left is the
taint.

Night

MBD · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 13

>> You mean like the Bills' "dynasty" did?
>
> 10-15 years later, the Bills "dynasty" is being recognized for what it
> was as Levy, Kelly, and Thomas are already in the HOF. It's only a
> matter of time for Reed, Smith, and maybe others.
>
> If Spygate is true, do you honestly think BB, Brady and the rest will
> even get considered? Oh, I'm sure somebody will mention their names
> and try to make a case of it, but their names will never get on the
> ballots.
>
> You keep your tainted trophies. 10, 15, hell even 100 years from now,
> the impact of the trophies will disappear, and all that will be left
> is the taint.

Yep. Like I mentioned in my post, the analogy to OJ is almost perfect,
save for the crimes committed. Sure OJ was proven "not guilty" of
committing double homicide, but everyone *knows* he did it. Just like
everyone knows the Patriots cheated, even if their SB wins are still
allowed to stand by the LA jury-style NFL.

MBD

The old geezer · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 2

On Feb 22, 4:02�pm, MBD wrote:
> >> You mean like the Bills' "dynasty" did?
>
> > 10-15 years later, the Bills "dynasty" is being recognized for what it
> > was as Levy, Kelly, and Thomas are already in the HOF. It's only a
> > matter of time for Reed, Smith, and maybe others.
>
> > If Spygate is true, do you honestly think BB, Brady and the rest will
> > even get considered? Oh, I'm sure somebody will mention their names
> > and try to make a case of it, but their names will never get on the
> > ballots.
>
> > You keep your tainted trophies. 10, 15, hell even 100 years from now,
> > the impact of the trophies will disappear, and all that will be left
> > is the taint.
>
> Yep. �Like I mentioned in my post, the analogy to OJ is almost perfect,
> save for the crimes committed. �Sure OJ was proven "not guilty" of
> committing double homicide, but everyone *knows* he did it. �Just like
> everyone knows the Patriots cheated, even if their SB wins are still
> allowed to stand by the LA jury-style NFL.
>
> MBD

Just like Barry Bonds Home Run "Record"!

TOG

Polarhound · Joined: 18 Feb 2008 Posts: 9

MBD wrote:
>>> This could be where it comes crashing down for the Pats:
>> You keep telling yourself that.
>
> Most everyone is telling themselves that the Patriots cheated and their SB
> wins are a sham. Just like most people knew OJ killed Nicole and Ron,
> although he was found not guilty in a court of law.
>
> What I meant by "crashing down" is the NFL officially nullifying their SB
> wins. But in the court of public opinion, they've already crashed.

Why don't any of you share that apparently excellent crack you are all
smoking?

MBD · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 13

>>>> This could be where it comes crashing down for the Pats:
>>> You keep telling yourself that.
>>
>> Most everyone is telling themselves that the Patriots cheated and
>> their SB wins are a sham. Just like most people knew OJ killed
>> Nicole and Ron, although he was found not guilty in a court of law.
>>
>> What I meant by "crashing down" is the NFL officially nullifying
>> their SB wins. But in the court of public opinion, they've already
>> crashed.
>
> Why don't any of you share that apparently excellent crack you are all
> smoking?

Oh, the irony! Think the NFL's version of Barry Bonds.

MBD

Polarhound · Joined: 18 Feb 2008 Posts: 9

MBD wrote:
>>>>> This could be where it comes crashing down for the Pats:
>>>> You keep telling yourself that.
>>> Most everyone is telling themselves that the Patriots cheated and
>>> their SB wins are a sham. Just like most people knew OJ killed
>>> Nicole and Ron, although he was found not guilty in a court of law.
>>>
>>> What I meant by "crashing down" is the NFL officially nullifying
>>> their SB wins. But in the court of public opinion, they've already
>>> crashed.
>> Why don't any of you share that apparently excellent crack you are all
>> smoking?
>
> Oh, the irony! Think the NFL's version of Barry Bonds.

Yes, we already know your interpersonal skills rival that of Bonds.. But
what does that have to do with the discussion?

MBD · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 13

>>> Why don't any of you share that apparently excellent crack you are all
>>> smoking?
>>
>> Oh, the irony! Think the NFL's version of Barry Bonds.
>
> Yes, we already know your interpersonal skills rival that of Bonds.. But
> what does that have to do with the discussion?

Hyuck, hyuck! You sound as silly as "the genius Belichick claiming "I
didn't understand the rule," when everyone *else* did.

MBD

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