Observation on Dem Debate

Google Beta User · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 12

These things are not about the issue or specifics.

It always comes down to perception.

IMO, Obama made Clinton look rather petty and silly at times i.e. like
that line when he said apparently all his voters are delusional.

And she comes across as shrill like when she was going on about
healthcare.

Again, the specifics or who is "right" on those issues is secondary to
how they're coming across.

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Dan S. · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 55

Google Beta User submitted this idea :
> These things are not about the issue or specifics.
>
> It always comes down to perception.
>
> IMO, Obama made Clinton look rather petty and silly at times i.e. like
> that line when he said apparently all his voters are delusional.
>
> And she comes across as shrill like when she was going on about
> healthcare.
>
> Again, the specifics or who is "right" on those issues is secondary to
> how they're coming across.

Hillary won't even get the woman's vote amongst the liberalish people I
know.

lein · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 14

On Feb 21, 9:02 pm, Google Beta User wrote:
> These things are not about the issue or specifics.
>
> It always comes down to perception.
>
> IMO, Obama made Clinton look rather petty and silly at times i.e. like
> that line when he said apparently all his voters are delusional.
>
> And she comes across as shrill like when she was going on about
> healthcare.
>
> Again, the specifics or who is "right" on those issues is secondary to
> how they're coming across.

Hillary's problem is that she really can't attack Obama on substance
because Hillary share she same liberal beliefs.

The Calmness of RSPW [was · Joined: 22 Feb 2008 Posts: 2

In article
,
lein wrote:

> On Feb 21, 9:02 pm, Google Beta User wrote:
> > These things are not about the issue or specifics.
> >
> > It always comes down to perception.
> >
> > IMO, Obama made Clinton look rather petty and silly at times i.e. like
> > that line when he said apparently all his voters are delusional.
> >
> > And she comes across as shrill like when she was going on about
> > healthcare.
> >
> > Again, the specifics or who is "right" on those issues is secondary to
> > how they're coming across.
>
>
> Hillary's problem is that she really can't attack Obama on substance
> because Hillary share she same liberal beliefs.

And that he doesn't share her authoritarian beliefs.

--
Monkeys.

trijcomm · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 4

On Feb 22, 12:36 am, "The Calmness of RSPW [was LH]"
wrote:
> In article
> ,
>
>
>
>
>
> lein wrote:
> > On Feb 21, 9:02 pm, Google Beta User wrote:
> > > These things are not about the issue or specifics.
>
> > > It always comes down to perception.
>
> > > IMO, Obama made Clinton look rather petty and silly at times i.e. like
> > > that line when he said apparently all his voters are delusional.
>
> > > And she comes across as shrill like when she was going on about
> > > healthcare.
>
> > > Again, the specifics or who is "right" on those issues is secondary to
> > > how they're coming across.
>
> > Hillary's problem is that she really can't attack Obama on substance
> > because Hillary share she same liberal beliefs.
>
> And that he doesn't share her authoritarian beliefs.
>
> --
> Monkeys.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Ha! Oh yes he does! His "let's all come together" garbage means "if
you oppose me, you are holding back progress."

The Calmness of RSPW [was · Joined: 22 Feb 2008 Posts: 2

In article
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trijcomm wrote:

> On Feb 22, 12:36 am, "The Calmness of RSPW [was LH]"
> wrote:
> > In article
> > ,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > lein wrote:
> > > On Feb 21, 9:02 pm, Google Beta User wrote:
> > > > These things are not about the issue or specifics.
> >
> > > > It always comes down to perception.
> >
> > > > IMO, Obama made Clinton look rather petty and silly at times i.e. like
> > > > that line when he said apparently all his voters are delusional.
> >
> > > > And she comes across as shrill like when she was going on about
> > > > healthcare.
> >
> > > > Again, the specifics or who is "right" on those issues is secondary to
> > > > how they're coming across.
> >
> > > Hillary's problem is that she really can't attack Obama on substance
> > > because Hillary share she same liberal beliefs.
> >
> > And that he doesn't share her authoritarian beliefs.
> >
> > --
> > Monkeys.- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Ha! Oh yes he does! His "let's all come together" garbage means "if
> you oppose me, you are holding back progress."

He's authoritarian, yes. But not nearly to that same extent nor to
the same extent as the majority of the other candidates are. Look at his
healthplan compared to Hillary's. Privatized nanny state vs "we'll make
it affordable for all but if you don't want it, don't buy it".

I have a challenge for RSPW polliticos: name the only two major party
candidates who lie within the libertarian half of the pyramid.
(libertarian meaning opposite of authoritarian, like con vs lib, not the
L party)

--
Monkeys.

Emporer Wonko the Sane · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 11

Google Beta User wrote in
4631-88ae-cb673c19ff3c@p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:

> These things are not about the issue or specifics.
>
> It always comes down to perception.
>
> IMO, Obama made Clinton look rather petty and silly at times i.e.
like
> that line when he said apparently all his voters are delusional.
>
> And she comes across as shrill like when she was going on about
> healthcare.
>
> Again, the specifics or who is "right" on those issues is
secondary to
> how they're coming across.

Petty, silly and shrill is not a bad summary of her personality.

Doug

--
"It's called thinking for yourself. I'd look into the idea if I
were you. You seem to have the idea that disagreeing with the
smrat people counts as thinking for yourself." rich hammet

"rwa2play · Joined: 16 Nov 2007 Posts: 1

On Feb 22, 7:07 am, "The Calmness of RSPW [was LH]"
wrote:
> In article
> ,
>
>
>
> trijcomm wrote:
> > On Feb 22, 12:36 am, "The Calmness of RSPW [was LH]"
> > wrote:
> > > In article
> > > ,
>
> > > lein wrote:
> > > > On Feb 21, 9:02 pm, Google Beta User wrote:
> > > > > These things are not about the issue or specifics.
>
> > > > > It always comes down to perception.
>
> > > > > IMO, Obama made Clinton look rather petty and silly at times i.e. like
> > > > > that line when he said apparently all his voters are delusional.
>
> > > > > And she comes across as shrill like when she was going on about
> > > > > healthcare.
>
> > > > > Again, the specifics or who is "right" on those issues is secondary to
> > > > > how they're coming across.
>
> > > > Hillary's problem is that she really can't attack Obama on substance
> > > > because Hillary share she same liberal beliefs.
>
> > > And that he doesn't share her authoritarian beliefs.
>
> > > --
> > > Monkeys.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > Ha! Oh yes he does! His "let's all come together" garbage means "if
> > you oppose me, you are holding back progress."
>
> He's authoritarian, yes. But not nearly to that same extent nor to
> the same extent as the majority of the other candidates are. Look at his
> healthplan compared to Hillary's. Privatized nanny state vs "we'll make
> it affordable for all but if you don't want it, don't buy it".
>
> I have a challenge for RSPW polliticos: name the only two major party
> candidates who lie within the libertarian half of the pyramid.
> (libertarian meaning opposite of authoritarian, like con vs lib, not the
> L party)

Hillary had plan A to the nomination all worked out but never had a
plan B to deal with a dynamic candidate like Obama. BTW, Obama has
taken a page from the neo-cons and basically said "I won't apologize
for being liberal."

the Bede · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 6

"The Calmness of RSPW [was LH]" wrote in
message @newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com...
> In article
> ,
> lein wrote:
>
>> On Feb 21, 9:02 pm, Google Beta User wrote:
>> > These things are not about the issue or specifics.
>> >
>> > It always comes down to perception.
>> >
>> > IMO, Obama made Clinton look rather petty and silly at times i.e. like
>> > that line when he said apparently all his voters are delusional.
>> >
>> > And she comes across as shrill like when she was going on about
>> > healthcare.
>> >
>> > Again, the specifics or who is "right" on those issues is secondary to
>> > how they're coming across.
>>
>>
>> Hillary's problem is that she really can't attack Obama on substance
>> because Hillary share she same liberal beliefs.
>
>
> And that he doesn't share her authoritarian beliefs.
>
>
"Hillary Clinton: Pear-Shaped Authoritarian".

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