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Trent Woodruff · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 360

Overwhelmingly, my students have loved the "potential terrorist part
of school bombing" moral dilemma I stole from this newsgroup. It's
created some tremendous discussions.

They've liked all of them, actually...but that one has definitely
gotten the most praise.

If anybody's got any more, bring them on.

--

....I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When
you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I
dismiss yours.
- Stephen Roberts

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Kokopeli · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 17

Trent Woodruff wrote:
> Overwhelmingly, my students have loved the "potential terrorist part
> of school bombing" moral dilemma I stole from this newsgroup. It's
> created some tremendous discussions.

Which version did you use?
dw

James Schrumpf · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 111

Quiet, Trent Woodruff -- I'm transmitting rage.

> Overwhelmingly, my students have loved the "potential terrorist part
> of school bombing" moral dilemma I stole from this newsgroup. It's
> created some tremendous discussions.
>
> They've liked all of them, actually...but that one has definitely
> gotten the most praise.
>
> If anybody's got any more, bring them on.
>
>
>

I don't remember that scenario. Who offered that one up?

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James Schrumpf http://www.hilltopper.net

Play like your couch is on fire!

Trent Woodruff · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 360

>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 20:13:32 -0800, Kokopeli wrote:
>>Trent Woodruff wrote:

>> Overwhelmingly, my students have loved the "potential terrorist part
>> of school bombing" moral dilemma I stole from this newsgroup. It's
>> created some tremendous discussions.

>Which version did you use?

Both, I made it a two-parter. First the scenario of the
maybe-terrorist being tortured and fessing up the name of the school,
with children saved. Agree, disagree, or somewhere in between with
the actions of the anti-terrorism unit?

Then, the maybe-terrorist dies due to wounds inflicted by the torture
and it comes to light that he had nothing to do with the terrorism and
was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. Pure blind dumb luck
that he gave the name of the right school and he only gave that name
because he wanted the torture to stop. The authorities charge the
members of the anti-terrorism unit involved with murder. Agree,
disagree, or somewhere in between with the actions of the authorities?

--

....I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When
you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I
dismiss yours.
- Stephen Roberts

Trent Woodruff · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 360

>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 22:18:26 -0600, James Schrumpf wrote:
>>Quiet, Trent Woodruff -- I'm transmitting rage.

>> Overwhelmingly, my students have loved the "potential terrorist part
>> of school bombing" moral dilemma I stole from this newsgroup. It's
>> created some tremendous discussions.
>> They've liked all of them, actually...but that one has definitely
>> gotten the most praise.
>> If anybody's got any more, bring them on.

>I don't remember that scenario. Who offered that one up?

It was actually an argument we were having in the newsgroup (if I
remember correctly, Jim Gysin started it). Then it was embellished
when I asked for scenarios.

--

....I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When
you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I
dismiss yours.
- Stephen Roberts

Kokopeli · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 17

Trent Woodruff wrote:
>> On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 20:13:32 -0800, Kokopeli wrote:
>>> Trent Woodruff wrote:
>
>>> Overwhelmingly, my students have loved the "potential terrorist part
>>> of school bombing" moral dilemma I stole from this newsgroup. It's
>>> created some tremendous discussions.
>
>> Which version did you use?
>
> Both, I made it a two-parter. First the scenario of the
> maybe-terrorist being tortured and fessing up the name of the school,
> with children saved. Agree, disagree, or somewhere in between with
> the actions of the anti-terrorism unit?
>
> Then, the maybe-terrorist dies due to wounds inflicted by the torture
> and it comes to light that he had nothing to do with the terrorism and
> was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. Pure blind dumb luck
> that he gave the name of the right school and he only gave that name
> because he wanted the torture to stop. The authorities charge the
> members of the anti-terrorism unit involved with murder. Agree,
> disagree, or somewhere in between with the actions of the authorities?

OK, since the latter one was mine, how did that one go over?
dw

The Grand Beckoning · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 60

On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 21:22:12 -0800, Trent Woodruff
wrote:
>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 20:13:32 -0800, Kokopeli wrote:
>>>Trent Woodruff wrote:
>
>>> Overwhelmingly, my students have loved the "potential terrorist part
>>> of school bombing" moral dilemma I stole from this newsgroup. It's
>>> created some tremendous discussions.
>
>>Which version did you use?
>
>Both, I made it a two-parter. First the scenario of the
>maybe-terrorist being tortured and fessing up the name of the school,
>with children saved. Agree, disagree, or somewhere in between with
>the actions of the anti-terrorism unit?
>
>Then, the maybe-terrorist dies due to wounds inflicted by the torture
>and it comes to light that he had nothing to do with the terrorism and
>was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. Pure blind dumb luck
>that he gave the name of the right school and he only gave that name
>because he wanted the torture to stop. The authorities charge the
>members of the anti-terrorism unit involved with murder. Agree,
>disagree, or somewhere in between with the actions of the authorities?

Should have tortured him for some winning lottery numbers too.

the_andrew_smith · Joined: 19 Oct 2007 Posts: 50

On Feb 25, 10:30 pm, Trent Woodruff wrote:
> Overwhelmingly, my students have loved the "potential terrorist part
> of school bombing" moral dilemma I stole from this newsgroup. It's
> created some tremendous discussions.
>
> They've liked all of them, actually...but that one has definitely
> gotten the most praise.

Anytime.

I'm glad you were able to comprehend my ideas and put them to use.

Great thing I thought of it.

a.

Jim Gysin · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 98

Trent Woodruff sent the following on 2/25/2008 11:23 PM:
>> On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 22:18:26 -0600, James Schrumpf wrote:
>>> Quiet, Trent Woodruff -- I'm transmitting rage.
>
>>> Overwhelmingly, my students have loved the "potential terrorist part
>>> of school bombing" moral dilemma I stole from this newsgroup. It's
>>> created some tremendous discussions.
>>> They've liked all of them, actually...but that one has definitely
>>> gotten the most praise.
>>> If anybody's got any more, bring them on.
>
>> I don't remember that scenario. Who offered that one up?
>
> It was actually an argument we were having in the newsgroup (if I
> remember correctly, Jim Gysin started it). Then it was embellished
> when I asked for scenarios.

Cool! I saw the start of the thread, but it ended up (along with a lot
of others) being subjected to the "Mark Read" function when I (once
again) fell way behind.

--
Jim Gysin
Waukesha, WI

Trent Woodruff · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 360

>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 22:13:26 -0800, Kokopeli wrote:
>>Trent Woodruff wrote:
>>> On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 20:13:32 -0800, Kokopeli wrote:
>>>> Trent Woodruff wrote:

>>>> Overwhelmingly, my students have loved the "potential terrorist part
>>>> of school bombing" moral dilemma I stole from this newsgroup. It's
>>>> created some tremendous discussions.

>>> Which version did you use?

>> Both, I made it a two-parter. First the scenario of the
>> maybe-terrorist being tortured and fessing up the name of the school,
>> with children saved. Agree, disagree, or somewhere in between with
>> the actions of the anti-terrorism unit?
>> Then, the maybe-terrorist dies due to wounds inflicted by the torture
>> and it comes to light that he had nothing to do with the terrorism and
>> was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. Pure blind dumb luck
>> that he gave the name of the right school and he only gave that name
>> because he wanted the torture to stop. The authorities charge the
>> members of the anti-terrorism unit involved with murder. Agree,
>> disagree, or somewhere in between with the actions of the authorities?

>OK, since the latter one was mine, how did that one go over?

That's what I was saying...the two of them in combination (as a
two-parter, if you will) is what went over so well. After the first
part, I asked their stance and we discussed it for a while. Then I
hit them with part two, and we got to talk about THAT and the
implications of it.

--

....I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When
you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I
dismiss yours.
- Stephen Roberts

Trent Woodruff · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 360

>On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 17:27:42 GMT, Jim Gysin wrote:
>>Trent Woodruff sent the following on 2/25/2008 11:23 PM:
>>> On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 22:18:26 -0600, James Schrumpf wrote:
>>>> Quiet, Trent Woodruff -- I'm transmitting rage.

>>>> Overwhelmingly, my students have loved the "potential terrorist part
>>>> of school bombing" moral dilemma I stole from this newsgroup. It's
>>>> created some tremendous discussions.
>>>> They've liked all of them, actually...but that one has definitely
>>>> gotten the most praise.
>>>> If anybody's got any more, bring them on.

>>> I don't remember that scenario. Who offered that one up?

>> It was actually an argument we were having in the newsgroup (if I
>> remember correctly, Jim Gysin started it). Then it was embellished
>> when I asked for scenarios.

>Cool! I saw the start of the thread, but it ended up (along with a lot
>of others) being subjected to the "Mark Read" function when I (once
>again) fell way behind.

I acted like it was mine, though. Was that so wrong of me?

--

....I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When
you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I
dismiss yours.
- Stephen Roberts

Jim Gysin · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 98

Trent Woodruff sent the following on 2/26/2008 9:42 PM:
>> On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 17:27:42 GMT, Jim Gysin wrote:
>>> Trent Woodruff sent the following on 2/25/2008 11:23 PM:
>>>> On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 22:18:26 -0600, James Schrumpf wrote:
>>>>> Quiet, Trent Woodruff -- I'm transmitting rage.
>
>>>>> Overwhelmingly, my students have loved the "potential terrorist part
>>>>> of school bombing" moral dilemma I stole from this newsgroup. It's
>>>>> created some tremendous discussions.
>>>>> They've liked all of them, actually...but that one has definitely
>>>>> gotten the most praise.
>>>>> If anybody's got any more, bring them on.
>
>>>> I don't remember that scenario. Who offered that one up?
>
>>> It was actually an argument we were having in the newsgroup (if I
>>> remember correctly, Jim Gysin started it). Then it was embellished
>>> when I asked for scenarios.
>
>> Cool! I saw the start of the thread, but it ended up (along with a lot
>> of others) being subjected to the "Mark Read" function when I (once
>> again) fell way behind.
>
> I acted like it was mine, though. Was that so wrong of me?
>

I demand my Benjamins. Or pie. Or something.

--
Jim Gysin
Waukesha, WI

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