Could Dallas have gone all the way this year with Parcells?

Jerry · Joined: 14 Jan 2008 Posts: 1

Most likely yes and possibly undefeated.

The question must be asked.

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RogerM · Joined: 14 Jan 2008 Posts: 6

Jerry wrote:
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> Most likely yes and possibly undefeated.
>
> The question must be asked.

Well, he HAS won in the playoffs. Which is more than can be said for
Phillips. I was not in favour of the coaching change.

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Parmenion334 · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 7

On Jan 14, 7:52ï¿½am, RogerM wrote:
> Jerry wrote:
>
> > Most likely yes and possibly undefeated.
>
> > The question must be asked.
>
> Well, he HAS won in the playoffs. Which is more than can be said for
> Phillips. I was not in favour of the coaching change.
>
> --

Tough to say either way about going all the way with parcells this
season. I would have to say no , mainly because of the penalty issues
and pass defense, which were both situations bad under parcells as
well. But we can't say that wade did a bad job, hell the team only
had 3 losses. Personally I still don't think he's got what it takes
though to bring this team to the next level. It's almost as though
his teams are setup for major letdowns in the post season. 2 years
running now with 2 very capable and talented teams and ZERO playoff
wins. Both top seeded in the playoffs. It might be a record, not sure.
One thing is already a fact though. The Cowboys organization is at
it's lowest point, playoff-wise in team history. Losing six straight.
Phillips will stay on another year and IMO it means another
dissapointment in the post season. Helluva nice guy, but that doesn't
cut it.

Preacher · Joined: 28 Sep 2007 Posts: 50

Jerry wrote:
> Most likely yes and possibly undefeated.
>
> The question must be asked.

Right. These guys were 10-6 with the annual December fade last year and
a one and done in the playoffs. Parcells didn't keep any of that from
happening. I see no reason to think he'd have done better this year.

The big question for the Cowboys is not whether or not they could've
gone all the way with Parcells, but rather how Jerry will handle the
departure of so many key voices from his circle of "advisors". If he
replaces them with "yes" men or if he decides not to replace them at
all, the franchise is headed south and it will be hard to watch.

twoaxes · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 26

On Jan 14, 10:41 am, Preacher wrote:
> Jerry wrote:
> > Most likely yes and possibly undefeated.
>
> > The question must be asked.
>
> Right. These guys were 10-6 with the annual December fade last year and
> a one and done in the playoffs. Parcells didn't keep any of that from
> happening. I see no reason to think he'd have done better this year.
>
> The big question for the Cowboys is not whether or not they could've
> gone all the way with Parcells, but rather how Jerry will handle the
> departure of so many key voices from his circle of "advisors". If he
> replaces them with "yes" men or if he decides not to replace them at
> all, the franchise is headed south and it will be hard to watch.

Speaking of which, as poorly as this team was prepared this week, s
it possible all of that interviewing by their coaches actually did
distract them team or at least took the coaches away from preparation
fro the game? I understand the Giants denied permission for team to
talk to their defensive coach. Its not conclusive but which coaches
performaed better in this game, Dallas's or the Giants'?

twoaxes · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 26

On Jan 14, 7:39 am, Jerry wrote:
> Most likely yes and possibly undefeated.
>
> The question must be asked.

If Parcells was the coach this year, TO would not have been the player
he was this year. You have to factor that in. Also, I was no more
impressed with Parcells last year than is was with Phillips this
year. Remember last year in the playoffs, the Seahwaks were playing
with DB they basically signed out of Walmart and Parcells stubbornly
stuck to his ball control game plan instead of exploiting their
weakness...kind of like what Dallas did yesterday!

"will · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 60

On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 15:41:15 GMT, Preacher wrote:

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>The big question for the Cowboys is not whether or not they could've
>gone all the way with Parcells, but rather how Jerry will handle the
>departure of so many key voices from his circle of "advisors". If he
>replaces them with "yes" men or if he decides not to replace them at
>all, the franchise is headed south and it will be hard to watch.

Any Cowboys fan paying attention at all knows this is the real thing
to fear.

There's too much arrogance associated with the Cowboys from the top
down. The Cowboys got arrogant after the Packers game. Jerry got
arrogant. The whole thing stinks of arrogance from the owner to the
team to the stadium plans to the ticket sales.

We don't need a football staff, because Jerry thinks he's the best in
the owrld. We don't need a stud coach because we've got the talent. We
don't need to watch the price of tickets because the Cowboys sell at
any price.

In 3 years we may have a hideous team in a cavernous, half full
stadium and Jerry will wonder what happened.

travisgod · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 11

On Jan 14, 7:39 am, Jerry wrote:
> Most likely yes and possibly undefeated.
>
> The question must be asked.

Not even close.

Parsells was not a great coach either. He had largely the same team
limp into the #6 seed last year. The result was the same.

Trav

Mark Stringer · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 4

Jerry wrote:

> Most likely yes and possibly undefeated.
>
> The question must be asked.

I think they lose more regular season games with Tuna. They might have
won the second Philly game but I don't think they come back in the
Buffalo or Detroit game. Also, I think they might have lost the first
meeting with the Giants. My memory is too bad to think about the finer
points of the how the rest of the games went during the year. Smile

He was too conservative, a play not to lose, not a play to win type.
That said, I think he would have had the team better prepared for the a
playoff game and that's what counts the most.

Preacher · Joined: 28 Sep 2007 Posts: 50

Mark Stringer wrote:
> Jerry wrote:
>
>> Most likely yes and possibly undefeated.
>>
>> The question must be asked.
>
> I think they lose more regular season games with Tuna. They might have
> won the second Philly game but I don't think they come back in the
> Buffalo or Detroit game. Also, I think they might have lost the first
> meeting with the Giants. My memory is too bad to think about the finer
> points of the how the rest of the games went during the year. Smile

>
> He was too conservative, a play not to lose, not a play to win type.
> That said, I think he would have had the team better prepared for the a
> playoff game and that's what counts the most.

It's all speculation of course, but I disagree. The Cowboys played tight
under Parcells. Everyone (especially the young guys) looked like they
were afraid to make a mistake out there. Not good in any game, regular
season or playoffs.

I think where he would've been the most help was with Romo, keeping him
reined in. Those plays late where Tony was trying to force a long pass
were the kind of thing that Bill would've avoided. Of course, he
would've had a lot more running plays and the Giants would've put a lot
of guys in the box trying to stop it. But he would have gotten in Romo's
ear about some stuff. Would it have helped?

triba_la_raza · Joined: 04 Dec 2007 Posts: 1

On Jan 14, 7:52 am, RogerM wrote:
> Jerry wrote:
>
> > Most likely yes and possibly undefeated.
>
> > The question must be asked.
>
> Well, he HAS won in the playoffs. Which is more than can be said for
> Phillips. I was not in favour of the coaching change.
>
> --

are you from the UK RogerM? Wink

RogerM · Joined: 14 Jan 2008 Posts: 6

triba_la_raza@yahoo.com wrote:
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> On Jan 14, 7:52 am, RogerM wrote:
> > Jerry wrote:
> >
> > > Most likely yes and possibly undefeated.
> >
> > > The question must be asked.
> >
> > Well, he HAS won in the playoffs. Which is more than can be said for
> > Phillips. I was not in favour of the coaching change.
> >
> > --
>
> are you from the UK RogerM? Wink

Canada. We use "our" rather than "or" also.

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Lee Watkins · Joined: 29 Dec 2007 Posts: 5

Jerry wrote:
> Most likely yes and possibly undefeated.
>
> The question must be asked.

for all the good things he brought to the team, he SERIOUSLY held this
team back with his bend-dont break defense and grind it out keep it
close and win late offense mindsets.

to answer your question.

hell no.

lee

RogerM · Joined: 14 Jan 2008 Posts: 6

triba_la_raza@yahoo.com wrote:
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> On Jan 15, 4:34 pm, RogerM wrote:
> > triba_la_r...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >
> > > On Jan 14, 7:52 am, RogerM wrote:
> > > > Jerry wrote:
> >
> > > > > Most likely yes and possibly undefeated.
> >
> > > > > The question must be asked.
> >
> > > > Well, he HAS won in the playoffs. Which is more than can be said for
> > > > Phillips. I was not in favour of the coaching change.
> >
> > > > --
> >
> > > are you from the UK RogerM? Wink

> >
> > Canada. We use "our" rather than "or" also.
> >
> > --
>
> oh...Canada still PWNED by the UK, RogerM?
>
> giggles!
>
> o! cannnaaaaddddaaaaaa!
>
> dayum, i'm GREAT!

Well, the language IS called English, not American.

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