RON ZOOK, KEEP OR FIRE?

USA4EVER · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 5

Should the head football coach of the Florida Gators, Ron Zook, be:
Fired now?
Later this 2003 season?
Wait for the end of the 2003 season?
Keep him for a third season?
Answer in "Subject Line"

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Grok · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 2

On Sat, 4 Oct 2003 17:09:27 -0400, "USA4EVER"
wrote:

>Should the head football coach of the Florida Gators, Ron Zook, be:
>Fired now?
>Later this 2003 season?
>Wait for the end of the 2003 season?
>Keep him for a third season?
>Answer in "Subject Line"
>

Don't pollute usenet, idiot.

VectorPrime · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 16

Do you even need to ask such a question. The correct question is, why
was he ever hired in the first place!

On Sat, 4 Oct 2003 17:09:27 -0400, "USA4EVER"
wrote:

>Should the head football coach of the Florida Gators, Ron Zook, be:
>Fired now?
>Later this 2003 season?
>Wait for the end of the 2003 season?
>Keep him for a third season?
>Answer in "Subject Line"
>

USA4EVER · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 5

"VectorPrime" wrote in message@4ax.com...
> Do you even need to ask such a question. The correct question is, why
> was he ever hired in the first place!
>
GOOD POINT
> On Sat, 4 Oct 2003 17:09:27 -0400, "USA4EVER"
> wrote:
>
> >Should the head football coach of the Florida Gators, Ron Zook, be:
> >Fired now?
> >Later this 2003 season?
> >Wait for the end of the 2003 season?
> >Keep him for a third season?
> >Answer in "Subject Line"
> >
>
>

Paul Wartenberg · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 11

"USA4EVER" wrote in message$Sn1.30@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
> Should the head football coach of the Florida Gators, Ron Zook, be:
> Fired now?

Fired now!!! The season is gone in terms of taking a shot at the SEC title,
but can still be salvaged for a December bowl game if we HURRY AND FIND
SOMEONE WHO FREAKIN KNOWS HOW TO PLAN AND RUN AN OFFENSE!!!

> Later this 2003 season?
> Wait for the end of the 2003 season?
> Keep him for a third season?
> Answer in "Subject Line"
>
>

Ron Ogden · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 2

It's bad to let Zook go now because: 1) it's hard to think who to replace
him with; 2) letting him go now gives up on the season, and that is hard to
do to our seniors; 3) doing it now sends the message that Florida is a
program in disarray, which harms recruiting and slows fund raising in a
tight year. We can't just fire him thinking we have a hope chest of
alternatives we can just dip into.

On the other hand, it is damn hard to just kiss off a season without even
presenting some evidence that UF is trying to do something.

If his pride would let him do it, Zook would quit of his own. He ain't
stupid; he knows he is in over his head, and no one wants to drown slowly.
All you have to do is look at him hiding behind those Foster Grants, or
whatever glasses he is wearing. His body language screams it--going down
with his ship. Somebody who knows somebody in the NFL should pull in a
favor and get Zook offered a job somewhere.

VectorPrime · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 16

1. Almost anyone would be better than this. Even my wife knows to
run against the 99th ranked defense agains the run, and pass against
the 117th ranked pass defense.
2. I have to agree with that one...bad message. However, you can
certainly start looking NOW.
3. That point assumes it isn't already in disarray. I say the season
to this point says it all. Funding from this Gator was just frozen
until Zook is gone. I suspect similar action will be taken by other
Bull Gators this week.

Zook has said over and over how much he loves the Gators. He's said
he would never never do anything to hurt the program. Pride aside, if
he is a man of his word, he will resign at the end of the season and
save us having to fire him mid-year next year.

I only have two contacts in the NFL, and aside from them being stunned
when he was hired, neither of them would consider hiring Zook for an
NFL position. All you need do is look at his record at New Orleans.
Hell, if UF hadn't hired him forcing him to resign as DC, New Orleans
was going to fire him.

At best, we'll be 4 - 7 this year....at worst...well, you fill it in.

On Sun, 05 Oct 2003 16:32:33 GMT, "Ron Ogden"
wrote:

>It's bad to let Zook go now because: 1) it's hard to think who to replace
>him with; 2) letting him go now gives up on the season, and that is hard to
>do to our seniors; 3) doing it now sends the message that Florida is a
>program in disarray, which harms recruiting and slows fund raising in a
>tight year. We can't just fire him thinking we have a hope chest of
>alternatives we can just dip into.
>
>On the other hand, it is damn hard to just kiss off a season without even
>presenting some evidence that UF is trying to do something.
>
>If his pride would let him do it, Zook would quit of his own. He ain't
>stupid; he knows he is in over his head, and no one wants to drown slowly.
>All you have to do is look at him hiding behind those Foster Grants, or
>whatever glasses he is wearing. His body language screams it--going down
>with his ship. Somebody who knows somebody in the NFL should pull in a
>favor and get Zook offered a job somewhere.
>

Alan Mundy · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 3

"Ron Ogden" wrote in$eS5.47850@twister.tampabay.rr.com:

> It's bad to let Zook go now because: 1) it's hard to think who to
> replace him with; 2) letting him go now gives up on the season, and
> that is hard to do to our seniors; 3) doing it now sends the message
> that Florida is a program in disarray, which harms recruiting and
> slows fund raising in a tight year. We can't just fire him thinking we
> have a hope chest of alternatives we can just dip into.

You don't think consecutive losses to Ole Miss is a pretty clear message
that the program is in disarray?

Don't worry, though. Zook says that it's correctable and that the team
learns more from losses than they do from wins.

You'uns should have a team full of Einsteins by the end of the season.

http://www.keepronzook.com

--
Alan Mundy

Alan Mundy · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 3

lone@victor.com (Lone Victor) wrote in@4ax.com:

> "Paul Wartenberg" wrote:
>
>>Fired now!!! The season is gone in terms of taking a shot at the SEC
>>title, but can still be salvaged for a December bowl game if we HURRY
>>AND FIND SOMEONE WHO FREAKIN KNOWS HOW TO PLAN AND RUN AN OFFENSE!!!
>
> Oh, that's an *excellent* idea. For sure, you'll have the pick of the
> top college coaches while looking in the middle of the season, after
> firing your coach in the middle of the season.
>
> Who *wouldn't* want to take such a position.
>
> And, of course, your new coach will step in and start winning right
> away, with the same shitty players you have right now.

There's nothing shitty about Florida's players.

They have one of the best O lines in college football.

--
Alan Mundy

Keith Taylor · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 5

This has nothing to with the players.

It is simple, Ron Zook is stupid and does not learn. He talks a good game
and continues to run the same exact plays that have proven to be duds. What
are the players supposed to do? Refuse to run his plays? Florida has huge
talent and it is being squandered by an incompetent coach.

Don't you dare blame this on the players. Imagine how frustrated they must
be.

"Lone Victor" wrote in message@4ax.com...
> "Paul Wartenberg" wrote:
>
> >Fired now!!! The season is gone in terms of taking a shot at the SEC
title,
> >but can still be salvaged for a December bowl game if we HURRY AND FIND
> >SOMEONE WHO FREAKIN KNOWS HOW TO PLAN AND RUN AN OFFENSE!!!
>
> Oh, that's an *excellent* idea. For sure, you'll have the pick of the
> top college coaches while looking in the middle of the season, after
> firing your coach in the middle of the season.
>
> Who *wouldn't* want to take such a position.
>
> And, of course, your new coach will step in and start winning right
> away, with the same shitty players you have right now.
>
>
>
>
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Evil · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 5

But Ron Zook sure can recruit, can't he? Didn't he have a top-5
recruiting class last year with Chris Leak showing a ton of promise
while making froshy mistakes. What, you guys want Mike Price or
George O'Leary? Just think, John Mackovic is available!

Grok · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 2

On Tue, 07 Oct 2003 21:28:57 -0400, lone@victor.com (Lone Victor)
wrote:

>"Keith Taylor" wrote:
>
>>This has nothing to with the players.
>>
>>Don't you dare blame this on the players. Imagine how frustrated they must
>>be.
>>
>Last UF play of the game last week: Leak throws the ball straight to
>the Ole Miss defender. End of Game, and UF loses to one of its
>weakest opponents ever.
>
>I'm supposed to blame Zook for that interception?

Not if that was the only time Florida touched the ball.

Greg · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 1

evilninjax@yahoo.com (Evil) wrote in message news:...
> But Ron Zook sure can recruit, can't he? Didn't he have a top-5
> recruiting class last year with Chris Leak showing a ton of promise
> while making froshy mistakes. What, you guys want Mike Price or
> George O'Leary? Just think, John Mackovic is available!

He did very good last season recruiting but he did it by lying to
most every recruit and he burned all the bridges & pissed off all the
other schools. look for him to lose some of that talent when his
promises don't hold up. Also watch for the other recruiters to put
out the word on FL after last year. They will probably fire him after
this season and should. He has some great talent. I told my wife
while watching Leak in that all star game that he'd have a Heisman on
his mantle someday. FSU will give him some lessons in a short while
about what it's really like Surprised

).

JoeSchmoe · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 1

Awwwww, c'mon GayTurds.....buck up and have faith, you don't have to play my
'Canes next year, so at least that takes one loss away from the 'Turds. Smile

Have fun 'Turds.....I never saw a program that deserved this mess more Smile

"VectorPrime" wrote in message@4ax.com...
> 1. Almost anyone would be better than this. Even my wife knows to
> run against the 99th ranked defense agains the run, and pass against
> the 117th ranked pass defense.
> 2. I have to agree with that one...bad message. However, you can
> certainly start looking NOW.
> 3. That point assumes it isn't already in disarray. I say the season
> to this point says it all. Funding from this Gator was just frozen
> until Zook is gone. I suspect similar action will be taken by other
> Bull Gators this week.
>
> Zook has said over and over how much he loves the Gators. He's said
> he would never never do anything to hurt the program. Pride aside, if
> he is a man of his word, he will resign at the end of the season and
> save us having to fire him mid-year next year.
>
> I only have two contacts in the NFL, and aside from them being stunned
> when he was hired, neither of them would consider hiring Zook for an
> NFL position. All you need do is look at his record at New Orleans.
> Hell, if UF hadn't hired him forcing him to resign as DC, New Orleans
> was going to fire him.
>
> At best, we'll be 4 - 7 this year....at worst...well, you fill it in.
>
>
> On Sun, 05 Oct 2003 16:32:33 GMT, "Ron Ogden"
> wrote:
>
> >It's bad to let Zook go now because: 1) it's hard to think who to replace
> >him with; 2) letting him go now gives up on the season, and that is hard
to
> >do to our seniors; 3) doing it now sends the message that Florida is a
> >program in disarray, which harms recruiting and slows fund raising in a
> >tight year. We can't just fire him thinking we have a hope chest of
> >alternatives we can just dip into.
> >
> >On the other hand, it is damn hard to just kiss off a season without even
> >presenting some evidence that UF is trying to do something.
> >
> >If his pride would let him do it, Zook would quit of his own. He ain't
> >stupid; he knows he is in over his head, and no one wants to drown
slowly.
> >All you have to do is look at him hiding behind those Foster Grants, or
> >whatever glasses he is wearing. His body language screams it--going down
> >with his ship. Somebody who knows somebody in the NFL should pull in a
> >favor and get Zook offered a job somewhere.
> >
>
>

Evil · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 5

brayhaven@aol.com (Greg) wrote in message news:...
> evilninjax@yahoo.com (Evil) wrote in message news:...
> > But Ron Zook sure can recruit, can't he? Didn't he have a top-5
> > recruiting class last year with Chris Leak showing a ton of promise
> > while making froshy mistakes. What, you guys want Mike Price or
> > George O'Leary? Just think, John Mackovic is available!
>
> He did very good last season recruiting but he did it by lying to
> most every recruit and he burned all the bridges & pissed off all the
> other schools. look for him to lose some of that talent when his
> promises don't hold up. Also watch for the other recruiters to put
> out the word on FL after last year. They will probably fire him after

? Really ? Can you expound on that? This is the first time i heard
anything about the methods of Ron Zook's recruiting. What exactly did
he say/tell theM?

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