Urlacher makes a play!

RickyBobby · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 26

It has taken fifteen games but Brian Urlacher finally made a highlight reel
play.

On a related note, there has been a Tommie Harris sighting.

I am counting down the days until the start of the 2008 season. 2008 will be
our year.

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Gustav Bruckner · Joined: 24 Dec 2007 Posts: 7

On Dec 23, 2:23 pm, "RickyBobby" wrote:
> It has taken fifteen games but Brian Urlacher finally made a highlight reel
> play.
>
> On a related note, there has been a Tommie Harris sighting.
>
> I am counting down the days until the start of the 2008 season. 2008 will be
> our year.

2007 would have been our year if they had been starting Kyle Orton
instead of Griessman. What do you wanna bet that Jay Mariotti finds a
way to belittle Orton's performance tommorrow?

Frank Sereno · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 2

Gustav Bruckner wrote:
> On Dec 23, 2:23 pm, "RickyBobby" wrote:
>> It has taken fifteen games but Brian Urlacher finally made a highlight reel
>> play.
>>
>> On a related note, there has been a Tommie Harris sighting.
>>
>> I am counting down the days until the start of the 2008 season. 2008 will be
>> our year.
>
> 2007 would have been our year if they had been starting Kyle Orton
> instead of Griessman. What do you wanna bet that Jay Mariotti finds a
> way to belittle Orton's performance tommorrow?

Yeah, right, whatever. Orton was an amazing 8 for 14 for 101
yards. Yep, he sure played like a difference-maker. The defense
won the game, not the offense. Griese or Grossman could have
been the qb and the Bears would have won.

If Turner had called this kind of game and gotten this kind of
performance out of the line all year, then the other QBs would
have been successful as well. It didn't hurt at all that special
teams and the defense played an outstanding game.

Mark C. · Joined: 10 Dec 2007 Posts: 1

"Frank Sereno" wrote in message $lD6.13390@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net...
> Gustav Bruckner wrote:
>> On Dec 23, 2:23 pm, "RickyBobby" wrote:
>>> It has taken fifteen games but Brian Urlacher finally made a highlight
>>> reel
>>> play.
>>>
>>> On a related note, there has been a Tommie Harris sighting.
>>>
>>> I am counting down the days until the start of the 2008 season. 2008
>>> will be
>>> our year.
>>
>> 2007 would have been our year if they had been starting Kyle Orton
>> instead of Griessman. What do you wanna bet that Jay Mariotti finds a
>> way to belittle Orton's performance tommorrow?
>
> Yeah, right, whatever. Orton was an amazing 8 for 14 for 101 yards. Yep,
> he sure played like a difference-maker. The defense won the game, not the
> offense. Griese or Grossman could have been the qb and the Bears would
> have won.
>
> If Turner had called this kind of game and gotten this kind of performance
> out of the line all year, then the other QBs would have been successful as
> well. It didn't hurt at all that special teams and the defense played an
> outstanding game.

For the last year (may be 20)...the job of a Chicago Bears QB is to NOT LOSE
THE GAME, not win it. Simple strategy really.

Mark C.

Gustav Bruckner · Joined: 24 Dec 2007 Posts: 7

On Dec 23, 6:54 pm, Frank Sereno
wrote:
> Gustav Bruckner wrote:
> > On Dec 23, 2:23 pm, "RickyBobby" wrote:
> >> It has taken fifteen games but Brian Urlacher finally made a highlight reel
> >> play.
>
> >> On a related note, there has been a Tommie Harris sighting.
>
> >> I am counting down the days until the start of the 2008 season. 2008 will be
> >> our year.
>
> > 2007 would have been our year if they had been starting Kyle Orton
> > instead of Griessman. What do you wanna bet that Jay Mariotti finds a
> > way to belittle Orton's performance tommorrow?
>
> Yeah, right, whatever. Orton was an amazing 8 for 14 for 101
> yards. Yep, he sure played like a difference-maker. The defense
> won the game, not the offense. Griese or Grossman could have
> been the qb and the Bears would have won.
>
> If Turner had called this kind of game and gotten this kind of
> performance out of the line all year, then the other QBs would
> have been successful as well. It didn't hurt at all that special
> teams and the defense played an outstanding game.

Wrong. Orton's ball-control style of quarterbacking meant that the
offense was able to actually move the ball downfield, get first downs
and monopolize the clock. This not only meant that our old and beat-up
offensive line was not asked to do as much pocket protection (since
Orton gets rid of the ball faster), but it also meant our defense was
not on the field as much and so they didn't get worn down like they
have in previous games this season. Ball control and clock
manipulation is classic Bears football and Kyle Orton fits the mold of
a classic Bears Quarterback.

suleimanmd · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 1

On Dec 23, 7:34 pm, Gustav Bruckner wrote:
> On Dec 23, 6:54 pm, Frank Sereno
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Gustav Bruckner wrote:
> > > On Dec 23, 2:23 pm, "RickyBobby" wrote:
> > >> It has taken fifteen games but Brian Urlacher finally made a highlight reel
> > >> play.
>
> > >> On a related note, there has been a Tommie Harris sighting.
>
> > >> I am counting down the days until the start of the 2008 season. 2008 will be
> > >> our year.
>
> > > 2007 would have been our year if they had been starting Kyle Orton
> > > instead of Griessman. What do you wanna bet that Jay Mariotti finds a
> > > way to belittle Orton's performance tommorrow?
>
> > Yeah, right, whatever. Orton was an amazing 8 for 14 for 101
> > yards. Yep, he sure played like a difference-maker. The defense
> > won the game, not the offense. Griese or Grossman could have
> > been the qb and the Bears would have won.
>
> > If Turner had called this kind of game and gotten this kind of
> > performance out of the line all year, then the other QBs would
> > have been successful as well. It didn't hurt at all that special
> > teams and the defense played an outstanding game.
>
> Wrong. Orton's ball-control style of quarterbacking meant that the
> offense was able to actually move the ball downfield, get first downs
> and monopolize the clock. This not only meant that our old and beat-up
> offensive line was not asked to do as much pocket protection (since
> Orton gets rid of the ball faster), but it also meant our defense was
> not on the field as much and so they didn't get worn down like they
> have in previous games this season.

I honestly do not know if Orton is the answer < though I'd like to
think so, since he is from here in Iowa> but the Defense today was not
on the ground as long as they usually are, and inspite of the brutal
cold, they looked fresher than any october game they played.

Ball control and clock
> manipulation is classic Bears football and Kyle Orton fits the mold of
> a classic Bears Quarterback.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Frank Sereno · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 2

Gustav Bruckner wrote:
> On Dec 23, 6:54 pm, Frank Sereno
> wrote:
>> Gustav Bruckner wrote:
>>> On Dec 23, 2:23 pm, "RickyBobby" wrote:
>>>> It has taken fifteen games but Brian Urlacher finally made a highlight reel
>>>> play.
>>>> On a related note, there has been a Tommie Harris sighting.
>>>> I am counting down the days until the start of the 2008 season. 2008 will be
>>>> our year.
>>> 2007 would have been our year if they had been starting Kyle Orton
>>> instead of Griessman. What do you wanna bet that Jay Mariotti finds a
>>> way to belittle Orton's performance tommorrow?
>> Yeah, right, whatever. Orton was an amazing 8 for 14 for 101
>> yards. Yep, he sure played like a difference-maker. The defense
>> won the game, not the offense. Griese or Grossman could have
>> been the qb and the Bears would have won.
>>
>> If Turner had called this kind of game and gotten this kind of
>> performance out of the line all year, then the other QBs would
>> have been successful as well. It didn't hurt at all that special
>> teams and the defense played an outstanding game.
>
> Wrong. Orton's ball-control style of quarterbacking meant that the
> offense was able to actually move the ball downfield, get first downs
> and monopolize the clock. This not only meant that our old and beat-up
> offensive line was not asked to do as much pocket protection (since
> Orton gets rid of the ball faster), but it also meant our defense was
> not on the field as much and so they didn't get worn down like they
> have in previous games this season. Ball control and clock
> manipulation is classic Bears football and Kyle Orton fits the mold of
> a classic Bears Quarterback.

Good grief, the classic Bears Quarterback SUCKS and so usually do
the Bears. The typical Orton game is like last week's in which
when he was needed to do the ordinary, he could not succeed.

The Bears had FOURTEEN first downs. That SUCKS. They only had
240 yards of offense. That SUCKS. The Bears had great field
position most of the game and for the most part in the first half
did little with it. The Bears had a blocked punt for a touchdown
and an INT return for a touchdown, but somehow you give Orton
credit for the win.

When the defense is dominant, then any QB can get the win for the
team. Orton proved that in 2005, Grossman proved it again in
2006. Unfortunately, I don't expect the defense to be any more
dominant in 2008 than it has been this year. When your defense
is bad, you need a QB that can go out there and get you points.
Orton is NOT that QB.

Gustav Bruckner · Joined: 24 Dec 2007 Posts: 7

On Dec 23, 8:21 pm, Frank Sereno
wrote:
> Gustav Bruckner wrote:
> > On Dec 23, 6:54 pm, Frank Sereno
> > wrote:
> >> Gustav Bruckner wrote:
> >>> On Dec 23, 2:23 pm, "RickyBobby" wrote:
> >>>> It has taken fifteen games but Brian Urlacher finally made a highlight reel
> >>>> play.
> >>>> On a related note, there has been a Tommie Harris sighting.
> >>>> I am counting down the days until the start of the 2008 season. 2008 will be
> >>>> our year.
> >>> 2007 would have been our year if they had been starting Kyle Orton
> >>> instead of Griessman. What do you wanna bet that Jay Mariotti finds a
> >>> way to belittle Orton's performance tommorrow?
> >> Yeah, right, whatever. Orton was an amazing 8 for 14 for 101
> >> yards. Yep, he sure played like a difference-maker. The defense
> >> won the game, not the offense. Griese or Grossman could have
> >> been the qb and the Bears would have won.
>
> >> If Turner had called this kind of game and gotten this kind of
> >> performance out of the line all year, then the other QBs would
> >> have been successful as well. It didn't hurt at all that special
> >> teams and the defense played an outstanding game.
>
> > Wrong. Orton's ball-control style of quarterbacking meant that the
> > offense was able to actually move the ball downfield, get first downs
> > and monopolize the clock. This not only meant that our old and beat-up
> > offensive line was not asked to do as much pocket protection (since
> > Orton gets rid of the ball faster), but it also meant our defense was
> > not on the field as much and so they didn't get worn down like they
> > have in previous games this season. Ball control and clock
> > manipulation is classic Bears football and Kyle Orton fits the mold of
> > a classic Bears Quarterback.
>
> Good grief, the classic Bears Quarterback SUCKS and so usually do
> the Bears. The typical Orton game is like last week's in which
> when he was needed to do the ordinary, he could not succeed.
>
> The Bears had FOURTEEN first downs. That SUCKS. They only had
> 240 yards of offense. That SUCKS. The Bears had great field
> position most of the game and for the most part in the first half
> did little with it. The Bears had a blocked punt for a touchdown
> and an INT return for a touchdown, but somehow you give Orton
> credit for the win.
>
> When the defense is dominant, then any QB can get the win for the
> team. Orton proved that in 2005, Grossman proved it again in
> 2006. Unfortunately, I don't expect the defense to be any more
> dominant in 2008 than it has been this year. When your defense
> is bad, you need a QB that can go out there and get you points.
> Orton is NOT that QB.

You say that when the defense is dominant any QB can win for the
Bears. I say the defense is only going to stay dominant when you have
a QB that doesn't make mistakes and can get first downs and keep the
offense on the field for awhile so the defense doesn't get worn out.
Orton IS that QB. Urlacher's TD interception happened because he and
the defense weren't worn out.

In 2005 Orton went 10 and 5 as the Bear's starting QB and got the
Bears in the playoffs. Not bad for a rookie off the bench. As Wiki
says:

"Measuring Orton by victories, his rookie season was a successful one
even by historical standards. Orton's 15 starts and 10 victories are
both rookie records for Bears quarterbacks, and the 10 victories are
the second most in the NFL since the NFL-AFL merger in 1970, behind
only Ben Roethlisberger's 14 victories in 2004."

Of course, then the Bears put in Grossman who screwed up the playoff
game, which should have been Orton's start anyway. According to a Trib
article, many Bear players tried to persuade Lovie Smith to let Orton
start that playoff game instead of Grossman.

The Bears don't need to look for a QB next year. They've already got
one in Orton. A 35-7 victory over a 12 and 2 team speaks for itself.
But just as I suspected, Mariotti is pissing on it.

Gary C · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 3

"Gustav Bruckner" wrote in message @f3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...

>Urlacher's TD interception happened because he and
>the defense weren't worn out.

Urlacher was where he was supposed to be, and the
right call was called for the situation. Then, Favre made a
bad read. Nothing more than that.

Try coffee, instead of the Kool-Aid.

RickyBobby · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 26

"Gustav Bruckner" wrote in message @r60g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
On Dec 23, 2:23 pm, "RickyBobby" wrote:
> It has taken fifteen games but Brian Urlacher finally made a highlight
> reel
> play.
>
> On a related note, there has been a Tommie Harris sighting.
>
> I am counting down the days until the start of the 2008 season. 2008 will
> be
> our year.

2007 would have been our year if they had been starting Kyle Orton
instead of Griessman. What do you wanna bet that Jay Mariotti finds a
way to belittle Orton's performance tommorrow?

Kyle Orton does seem to have a nice winning percentage when he starts.

Gustav Bruckner · Joined: 24 Dec 2007 Posts: 7

>> Kyle Orton does seem to have a nice winning percentage when he starts.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/chi-bears22dec22,1,3795229.story?ctrack=2&cset=true

RickyBobby · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 26

"Gustav Bruckner" wrote in message @d4g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>>> Kyle Orton does seem to have a nice winning percentage when he starts.
>
> http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/chi-bears22dec22,1,3795229.story?ctrack=2&cset=true
>

Kyle Orton is not as stupid and clumsy as Grossman and does not have the rag
arm of Griese. The Bears could go 12-4 or better with Kyle Orton as the
starting quarterback.

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