Will the Bears beat the Patriots?

Professor · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 4

The game will be played in Foxboro which just got new turf installed this
week. All three Patriot losses have come at home this year, although
historically the Patriots have had the highest percentage of home field wins
in the NFL since Brady became their quarterback. Brady didn't look
impressive against Indy or the Jets throwing int's in both games, but he lit
up the Packers for 35 points today. So Bears fans, how confident are you?
Think the bears will prevail in this one?

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billparcellsfan2003 · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 3

Professor wrote:
> The game will be played in Foxboro which just got new turf installed this
> week. All three Patriot losses have come at home this year, although
> historically the Patriots have had the highest percentage of home field wins
> in the NFL since Brady became their quarterback. Brady didn't look
> impressive against Indy or the Jets throwing int's in both games, but he lit
> up the Packers for 35 points today. So Bears fans, how confident are you?
> Think the bears will prevail in this one?

The loss of Charlie Weis has had somewhat of an impact on Brady(as we
all know, the Pack aren't any good).

The Bears win this one by a TD or so.

VenkVelaga · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 1

All I'll say is Rex better step up his game. The running game might be
difficult. Also we got good cornerbacks, but what happened to all those
sacks that we had earlier.

--
-Venk

Thomas Ruschak · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 1

"VenkVelaga" wrote in message @comcast.com...
> All I'll say is Rex better step up his game. The running game might be
> difficult. Also we got good cornerbacks, but what happened to all those
> sacks that we had earlier.

We've had a lot of teams more or less abandon the idea of throwing deep
against the Bears, that's what happened.

I'm optimistic about this game from a personnel standpoint, but it's the
coaching that's got me worried. I suspect the Bears will get severely
out-coached in this game. Sad

Tom

Major Drunkdey · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 3

Ok, this is a tough one to figure out. On paper the numbers say these
two teams are pretty closely matched. Looking at the numbers, a
couple of things look different.

First downs jumps out big.

Pats 219
Chi 189

this makes me look at third down conversions which might explain this
difference. Yup;

Pats convert 42%
Chi convert 39%

So which team can play to these numbers?
well, the Bears only allows its opponents 27% 3rd down conversions
The Pats allow 36% 3rd down conversions

Although, this difference is slight, it favors the Bears. Combined
with the Bears better Field Goal kicker, I'm starting to see how this
game might shape up.

Next interceptions

Bear have got 15 and gave away 11
Pats 10 9

Because Rex has given a great number in a couple bad games, I give the
take away edge to the Bears.

So, on this information here is what NEEDS to happen. The Bears HAVE
to win the edge in turnovers. and even MORE important the KEY to the
game is stopping the Pats on 3rd down. If the Pats convert 42% of
their 3rd downs the Bears WILL lose.

Now for the prediction. The Bears can keep the Pats to less than 40%
3rd down conversions. The Bears can win the take away battle. The
only questions is, can the Bears execute a complete offensive game
plan for 4 quarters and put up three touchdowns with, at most one
offensive turnover? So as you probably guessed by now. It comes down
to the play of Rex Grossman. That's the difference plain and simple.

Bears 28 - 24

Major

Rick Grigutis · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 1

the brain trust has some options w/ the game plan. play it close to the
vest and be in a position to win at the end, utilize their weapons
aggressively and adjust in a timely way, or a combination of the above.
can't remember when the bears have last been in a shootout. seems as if
they turn turtle when a major challenge looms and they've been very
successful w/ it. i see a repeat of the jets game plan tailored to the pats
strengths/weaknesses. i see the beloved taking away the run game and daring
brady to beat them w/ his tight end, their best rcvr. bears should go max
protect and use the speed and athleticism of their rcvrs against a an almost
empty pats secondary. i believe the bears will win but by how much is
predicated on the balls of the brain trust.
"Major Drunkdey" wrote in message @4ax.com...
> Ok, this is a tough one to figure out. On paper the numbers say these
> two teams are pretty closely matched. Looking at the numbers, a
> couple of things look different.
>
> First downs jumps out big.
>
> Pats 219
> Chi 189
>
> this makes me look at third down conversions which might explain this
> difference. Yup;
>
> Pats convert 42%
> Chi convert 39%
>
> So which team can play to these numbers?
> well, the Bears only allows its opponents 27% 3rd down conversions
> The Pats allow 36% 3rd down conversions
>
> Although, this difference is slight, it favors the Bears. Combined
> with the Bears better Field Goal kicker, I'm starting to see how this
> game might shape up.
>
> Next interceptions
>
> Bear have got 15 and gave away 11
> Pats 10 9
>
> Because Rex has given a great number in a couple bad games, I give the
> take away edge to the Bears.
>
>
> So, on this information here is what NEEDS to happen. The Bears HAVE
> to win the edge in turnovers. and even MORE important the KEY to the
> game is stopping the Pats on 3rd down. If the Pats convert 42% of
> their 3rd downs the Bears WILL lose.
>
> Now for the prediction. The Bears can keep the Pats to less than 40%
> 3rd down conversions. The Bears can win the take away battle. The
> only questions is, can the Bears execute a complete offensive game
> plan for 4 quarters and put up three touchdowns with, at most one
> offensive turnover? So as you probably guessed by now. It comes down
> to the play of Rex Grossman. That's the difference plain and simple.
>
>
> Bears 28 - 24
>
>
> Major
>

Rushdogg · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 1

It'll be a tough game, but I hope the Bears open the play book back up. The
game against the Jets didn't give Grossman as many opportunities to go down
field. Yes, he may make a mistake, but he is one that has to take some
chances to come up with the big play. I think we'll need big plays to be
the Patriots at home. I think the Bears already legitamized themselves by
winning the last two on the road.

"Rick Grigutis" wrote in message @insightbb.com...
> the brain trust has some options w/ the game plan. play it close to the
> vest and be in a position to win at the end, utilize their weapons
> aggressively and adjust in a timely way, or a combination of the above.
> can't remember when the bears have last been in a shootout. seems as if
> they turn turtle when a major challenge looms and they've been very
> successful w/ it. i see a repeat of the jets game plan tailored to the
> pats strengths/weaknesses. i see the beloved taking away the run game and
> daring brady to beat them w/ his tight end, their best rcvr. bears should
> go max protect and use the speed and athleticism of their rcvrs against a
> an almost empty pats secondary. i believe the bears will win but by how
> much is predicated on the balls of the brain trust.
> "Major Drunkdey" wrote in message
> @4ax.com...
>> Ok, this is a tough one to figure out. On paper the numbers say these
>> two teams are pretty closely matched. Looking at the numbers, a
>> couple of things look different.
>>
>> First downs jumps out big.
>>
>> Pats 219
>> Chi 189
>>
>> this makes me look at third down conversions which might explain this
>> difference. Yup;
>>
>> Pats convert 42%
>> Chi convert 39%
>>
>> So which team can play to these numbers?
>> well, the Bears only allows its opponents 27% 3rd down conversions
>> The Pats allow 36% 3rd down conversions
>>
>> Although, this difference is slight, it favors the Bears. Combined
>> with the Bears better Field Goal kicker, I'm starting to see how this
>> game might shape up.
>>
>> Next interceptions
>>
>> Bear have got 15 and gave away 11
>> Pats 10 9
>>
>> Because Rex has given a great number in a couple bad games, I give the
>> take away edge to the Bears.
>>
>>
>> So, on this information here is what NEEDS to happen. The Bears HAVE
>> to win the edge in turnovers. and even MORE important the KEY to the
>> game is stopping the Pats on 3rd down. If the Pats convert 42% of
>> their 3rd downs the Bears WILL lose.
>>
>> Now for the prediction. The Bears can keep the Pats to less than 40%
>> 3rd down conversions. The Bears can win the take away battle. The
>> only questions is, can the Bears execute a complete offensive game
>> plan for 4 quarters and put up three touchdowns with, at most one
>> offensive turnover? So as you probably guessed by now. It comes down
>> to the play of Rex Grossman. That's the difference plain and simple.
>>
>>
>> Bears 28 - 24
>>
>>
>> Major
>>
>
>

Muskrat McHenry · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 2

"Rushdogg" wrote in message $mP4.3591@newsfe23.lga...
> It'll be a tough game, but I hope the Bears open the play book back up.
> The game against the Jets didn't give Grossman as many opportunities to go
> down field. Yes, he may make a mistake, but he is one that has to take
> some chances to come up with the big play. I think we'll need big plays
> to be the Patriots at home. I think the Bears already legitamized
> themselves by winning the last two on the road.

What, Belichick's mind against Turner's? Ya gotta believe the word is out to
blitz Grossman now. I see a whole shitload of mixed up defensiive formations
this weekend, with blitzing coming in from section 106B if possible.

MM

Eric Margheim · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 1

"Muskrat McHenry" wrote in message $C23.18073@newsfe08.phx...
>
> "Rushdogg" wrote in message
> $mP4.3591@newsfe23.lga...
>> It'll be a tough game, but I hope the Bears open the play book back up.
>> The game against the Jets didn't give Grossman as many opportunities to
>> go down field. Yes, he may make a mistake, but he is one that has to
>> take some chances to come up with the big play. I think we'll need big
>> plays to be the Patriots at home. I think the Bears already legitamized
>> themselves by winning the last two on the road.
>
> What, Belichick's mind against Turner's? Ya gotta believe the word is out
> to blitz Grossman now. I see a whole shitload of mixed up defensiive
> formations this weekend, with blitzing coming in from section 106B if
> possible.
>

The Bears are in a good position to play this game any way they want. I'd
like to see them experiment with some no-huddle and shotgun formations.

Major Drunkdey · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 3

On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 11:35:10 -0600, "Eric Margheim"
wrote:

>
>"Muskrat McHenry" wrote in message
>$C23.18073@newsfe08.phx...
>>
>> "Rushdogg" wrote in message
>> $mP4.3591@newsfe23.lga...
>>> It'll be a tough game, but I hope the Bears open the play book back up.
>>> The game against the Jets didn't give Grossman as many opportunities to
>>> go down field. Yes, he may make a mistake, but he is one that has to
>>> take some chances to come up with the big play. I think we'll need big
>>> plays to be the Patriots at home. I think the Bears already legitamized
>>> themselves by winning the last two on the road.
>>
>> What, Belichick's mind against Turner's? Ya gotta believe the word is out
>> to blitz Grossman now. I see a whole shitload of mixed up defensiive
>> formations this weekend, with blitzing coming in from section 106B if
>> possible.
>>
>
>The Bears are in a good position to play this game any way they want. I'd
>like to see them experiment with some no-huddle and shotgun formations.
>

I agree. Can't be a Jets games plan. The offense has to produce.

Major

BZ · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 11

Professor wrote:

> Think the bears will prevail in this one?

Yes I do, Perfessor.

We've just played two games on field turf, so we're used to the
conditions. I don't think the new field will be a big concern to us.
(Nor to the Patriots, who have field turf on one of their practice fields.)

Bellichek is great and has a solid team all around, but the Bears can be
unpredictable, and that's harder to coach against. If the Bears get the
upper hand, especially early, then look out Patsies, 'cuz it could get
ugly. But if the Pats can frustrate Grossman early, I think the game
will be close.

billparcellsfan2003 · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 3

Bears 20, NE 17

BZ wrote:
> Professor wrote:
>
> > Think the bears will prevail in this one?
>
> Yes I do, Perfessor.
>
> We've just played two games on field turf, so we're used to the
> conditions. I don't think the new field will be a big concern to us.
> (Nor to the Patriots, who have field turf on one of their practice fields.)
>
> Bellichek is great and has a solid team all around, but the Bears can be
> unpredictable, and that's harder to coach against. If the Bears get the
> upper hand, especially early, then look out Patsies, 'cuz it could get
> ugly. But if the Pats can frustrate Grossman early, I think the game
> will be close.

Cynsguy · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 2

BZ wrote:
> Professor wrote:
>
> > Think the bears will prevail in this one?
>
> Yes I do, Perfessor.
>
> We've just played two games on field turf, so we're used to the
> conditions. I don't think the new field will be a big concern to us.
> (Nor to the Patriots, who have field turf on one of their practice fields.)
>
> Bellichek is great and has a solid team all around, but the Bears can be
> unpredictable, and that's harder to coach against. If the Bears get the
> upper hand, especially early, then look out Patsies, 'cuz it could get
> ugly. But if the Pats can frustrate Grossman early, I think the game
> will be close.
That's somewhat convoluted. If the" Pats frustrate Grossman early",
then the game will be close? If they frustrate him early, I see it as
a romp for the Pats.

man_in_ct2000 · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 20

billparcellsfan2003@yahoo.com wrote:
> Professor wrote:
> > The game will be played in Foxboro which just got new turf installed this
> > week. All three Patriot losses have come at home this year, although
> > historically the Patriots have had the highest percentage of home field wins
> > in the NFL since Brady became their quarterback. Brady didn't look
> > impressive against Indy or the Jets throwing int's in both games, but he lit
> > up the Packers for 35 points today. So Bears fans, how confident are you?
> > Think the bears will prevail in this one?
>
> The loss of Charlie Weis has had somewhat of an impact on Brady(as we
> all know, the Pack aren't any good).
>
> The Bears win this one by a TD or so.

is that why he had his best year in passing yards with Charlie
already gone?

BZ · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 11

Cynsguy@gmail.com wrote:

> That's somewhat convoluted. If the" Pats frustrate Grossman early",
> then the game will be close? If they frustrate him early, I see it as
> a romp for the Pats.

The Bears defense will keep it close even if Grossman is struggling to
put up points.

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