Top Flops? Writers predicting Patriots & Cowboys losses

scooterp7 · Joined: 10 Jan 2008 Posts: 21

On Jan 10, 3:04 pm, Husky could not resist the urge to make a fool of
himself, came out of the closet and blathered,

"You've brought silliness to a new level."

Only gays use words like silly and silliness.

Archived from group: alt>sports>football>pro>dallas-cowboys

Sri Krsna · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 257

Chris wrote:

>>>Is there some reason you're ignoring my retort to your idiotic rant
>>>about how the Steel Curtain would beat the 2007 Pats?
>>>
>>>
>>I don't mean to take anything away from these guys becasue they were
>>awsome players of their generation, but....
>>
>>- At 6'5", 275, Mean Joe would be an OLB in our system and not a DT.
>>- Both Lambert and Ham would be big safeties
>>
>>
>You forgot to transmogrify.
>
>

My bad. I'll try to convince my g/f to transmogrify her left breast into
Godzookie and see how it stacks up againt the Steel Curtain.

Husky · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 94

On Jan 10, 6:36 pm, scoote...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Jan 10, 3:04 pm, Husky could not resist the urge to make a fool of
> himself, came out of the closet and blathered,
If you traveled back in time and stood there, would your posts have
ever showed here, SPARKY?
>
> "You've brought silliness to a new level."
>
> Only gays use words like silly and silliness.

You just used them, you moron! Only Morons write the stupid, SILLY,
things that you do.
No go home and tell your momma she's calling you, you mental
defective, comic book reading dimwit!!!

Sri Krsna · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 257

scooterp7@gmail.com wrote:

>On Jan 10, 1:39 pm, Sri Krsna wrote:
>
>
>>Chris wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>>Is there some reason you're ignoring my retort to your idiotic rant
>>>>>about how the Steel Curtain would beat the 2007 Pats?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>I don't mean to take anything away from these guys becasue they were
>>>>awsome players of their generation, but....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>- At 6'5", 275, Mean Joe would be an OLB in our system and not a DT.
>>>>- Both Lambert and Ham would be big safeties
>>>>
>>>>
>>>You forgot to transmogrify.
>>>
>>>
>>My bad. I'll try to convince my g/f to transmogrify her left breast into
>>Godzookie and see how it stacks up againt the Steel Curtain.
>>
>>
>
>Great, make a big joke at the expense of the optimal attributes of the
>Transmogrifier.
>
>
Say, you wouldn't happen to be John Barthes per chance, would you?

Sri Krsna · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 257

Chris wrote:

>>>>>Is there some reason you're ignoring my retort to your idiotic rant
>>>>>about how the Steel Curtain would beat the 2007 Pats?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>I don't mean to take anything away from these guys becasue they were
>>>>awsome players of their generation, but....
>>>>
>>>>- At 6'5", 275, Mean Joe would be an OLB in our system and not a DT.
>>>>- Both Lambert and Ham would be big safeties
>>>>
>>>>
>>>You forgot to transmogrify.
>>>
>>>
>>My bad. I'll try to convince my g/f to transmogrify her left breast into
>>Godzookie and see how it stacks up againt the Steel Curtain.
>>
>>
>I wasn't rolling my eyes in your direction. Wanted to clear that up.
>
>
I know, but thanks for the clarification.
Either way, I'm not taking this thread seriously.

MZ · Joined: 28 Sep 2007 Posts: 130

wrote in message @f10g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>I'm talking about the mental and intestinal fortitude of the
>personalities of the Steel Curtain being given the same advantage of
>development at todays standard.
>
>I'm talking the frozen tundra that is Lambeau Field. (Yes I know
>that's Packers) Were talking toughness here and the IMHO the patsies
>would lose out.

Ok, fine. The Steelers were more manly men.

The Patriots are just better at football, that's all.

MZ · Joined: 28 Sep 2007 Posts: 130

wrote in message @comcast.com...
> In alt.sports.football.pro.ne-patriots MZ wrote:
>> orange into an apple? You acknowledge that training, medical science,
>> salaries, the evolution of knowledge in the game, etc has led to better
>> football teams, and that you would need to give society of yesteryear all
>> those same advantages to come up with an equivalent team (somehow
>> including
>> all the innovations in football that occurred in the 80s, 90s, and 00s,
>> which would be a hard thing to give to the 70s Steelers). Perhaps
>> without
>
> He also seems to be not considering that all of these modern advantages
> the tramsogrification would allow for wouldn't turn the players "soft"
> or whatever it is that he's claiming is the key difference.

Not only that, but he assumes that recruitment would have the same flavor.
How do we know that half those players would even make the team, when the
focus at the level of high school (and earlier!) would have been far
different? Today we see *professional* high school football coaches spot a
300lb sophomore and try to groom him with $1500 football camps and a home
basement of expensive exercise equipment. They're on more pills than
grandma. Some even have personal trainers and personal football coaches.
The kid has the luxury of growing up watching 2 games every Sunday and 2
more on Saturday. They're thrown into organized leagues at the age of 7,
and $150k colleges are giving anyone who's pretty good a free ride (and
perks); parents know this.

Preacher · Joined: 28 Sep 2007 Posts: 50

MZ wrote:
> wrote in message
> @comcast.com...
>> In alt.sports.football.pro.ne-patriots MZ wrote:
>>> They had better offenses? Then how come they couldn't score more points?
>> One thing to take note of though is how these offenses did in respect to
>> the other teams in the league the year in question. Obviously rules
>> have been changed over the years, particularly in recent history (thanks,
>> Mr Polian) to enable more prolific passing attacks.
>>
>> What I mean is this:
>>
>> The Pats scored X points (too lazy to look up the real number), and the
>> average team scored Y points.
>>
>> The 89 Niners scored A points and the average team in 1989 scored B
>> points.
>>
>> It is possible that comparing A & B shows that A is actually more
>> impressive than X vs Y.
>>
>> I don't know that this is the case for any of the teams he brought up,
>> frankly it'd not really surprise me one way or the other, but I don't
>> think
>> you can just look at total points scored in a vaccuum.
>
> That's a great point. But also don't look at offenses in a vacuum. He
> cites salaries, weights, and steroids (apparently those weren't around in
> the 70's) as a reason why offenses are better these days. But how come
> defenses also aren't better because of those things?
>
> Anyway...
> In '07 the Pats scored 589 points compared to a league average of 339
> points.
> In '89 the 49ers scored 442 points compared to a league average of 313.9
> points.
>
> *league averages don't include the 07 Pats and 89 49ers point totals, since
> we're doing a comparison to other teams in the league.
>
> The Pats feat is more impressive, wouldn't you say?

Does it for me. That's about as good a way as any to compare teams of
different eras. Well done.

MZ · Joined: 28 Sep 2007 Posts: 130

wrote in message @i12g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>Isn't EVERYONE here stating opinions outside of a few facts that they
>use to support their opinions/assertions.

....and of course the schematics for the transmogrifier.

Sri Krsna · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 257

scooterp7@gmail.com wrote:

>On Jan 10, 3:52 pm, "MZ" wrote:
>
>
>> wrote in message
>>
>>@i12g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>>Isn't EVERYONE here stating opinions outside of a few facts that they
>>>use to support their opinions/assertions.
>>>
>>>
>>...and of course the schematics for the transmogrifier.
>>
>>
>Yeah, well..., I'm workin' on it.
>
>
You wouldn't happen to have one for an orgone accumulator on hand, would
you?

Chris · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 36

> >Is there some reason you're ignoring my retort to your idiotic rant
> >about how the Steel Curtain would beat the 2007 Pats?
> >
> >
>
> I don't mean to take anything away from these guys becasue they were
> awsome players of their generation, but....
>
> - At 6'5", 275, Mean Joe would be an OLB in our system and not a DT.
> - Both Lambert and Ham would be big safeties

You forgot to transmogrify.

Chris · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 36

> > >Is there some reason you're ignoring my retort to your idiotic rant
> > >about how the Steel Curtain would beat the 2007 Pats?
>
> > I don't mean to take anything away from these guys becasue they were
> > awsome players of their generation, but....
>
> > - At 6'5", 275, Mean Joe would be an OLB in our system and not a DT.
> > - Both Lambert and Ham would be big safeties
>
> You forgot to transmogrify.

>Dude, that's it exactly.

The Pats could goon it up like the 70's era players as well. The Transmogrifier works both ways.

Chris · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 36

>I'm talking about the mental and intestinal fortitude of the
>personalities of the Steel Curtain being given the same advantage of
>development at todays standard.

>I'm talking the frozen tundra that is Lambeau Field. (Yes I know
>that's Packers) Were talking toughness here and the IMHO the patsies
>would lose out.

The Pats have played in the toughest of conditions. In the playoffs it was 4 Degrees against
Tennessee, what the wind chill was I'd have to look it up. I'd was unhealthy to be outside.

I think the Pats would love to go 'Old School". Look at 2001, After that game the crying from the
opposition changed the way football is played. Your penalizing them because they are maximizing
their team to today's rules. Your nostalgic viewpoint clouds your opinion. They CAN'T play that way
in today's football. Ask Rodney Harrison or Vince Wilfork.

Chris · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 36

> He also seems to be not considering that all of these modern advantages
> the tramsogrification would allow for wouldn't turn the players "soft"
> or whatever it is that he's claiming is the key difference.

Bingo...He has a clouded viewpoint.

Chris · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 36

> >>>Is there some reason you're ignoring my retort to your idiotic rant
> >>>about how the Steel Curtain would beat the 2007 Pats?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>I don't mean to take anything away from these guys becasue they were
> >>awsome players of their generation, but....
> >>
> >>- At 6'5", 275, Mean Joe would be an OLB in our system and not a DT.
> >>- Both Lambert and Ham would be big safeties
> >>
> >>
> >You forgot to transmogrify.
> >
> >
>
> My bad. I'll try to convince my g/f to transmogrify her left breast into
> Godzookie and see how it stacks up againt the Steel Curtain.

I wasn't rolling my eyes in your direction. Wanted to clear that up.