Top Flops? Writers predicting Patriots & Cowboys losses

Husky · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 94

On Jan 9, 2:57 pm, "observer" wrote:
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> Jaguars Will Win
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> ESPN, Jeremy Green
> http://tinyurl.com/ywfhv3
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> Giants Will Win
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> ESPN, Seth Wickersham
> http://tinyurl.com/2bkohp
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That does it. There's no point in watching the games, now.

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Fred Goodwin, CMA · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 75

Cowboys will lose, but don't blame Jessica

columnist=wickersham_seth&id=3186421>
http://tinyurl.com/2bkohp

By Seth Wickersham
ESPN The Magazine
Updated: January 9, 2008

What's that? You want nine reasons the fifth-seeded Giants will beat
the top-seeded Cowboys? Sure, in a New York -- er, New Jersey --
minute.

1. Eli Manning

Note that it's "Eli Manning" and not "The Eli Manning Factor." Now,
that's not to say Manning is forever over his inconsistent ways. In
fact, Cowboys fans are praying he regresses into one of his 13-of-38
afternoons. But it won't happen, not this Sunday. Not when Manning has
hit 42 of his past 59 passes with six touchdowns and one interception
against teams with a combined 25-7 record. Not against a defense that,
since November, has struggled to stop Aaron Rodgers, Jon Kitna, Jason
Campbell, Todd Collins and, in stretches, even Matt Moore.

Watching Manning the past few weeks: He's shaking secondaries around
with his eyes, freezing them with pump fakes, hanging in the pocket
and finding the open guy -- and the Giants' pass-catchers, after
leading the NFL in drops with 42, are holding on to the ball. Manning
won't be fazed by two losses to Dallas this year. His confidence,
after all, is sky high because ...

2. The loss to New England was a good thing

Tom Coughlin made the right call in playing his starters against the
Patriots in Week 17, even if it cost him a few of them. He put it on
his players to dig deep against the best regular-season team in
history, and they responded, even though they lost. Now, the Giants
think, "Hey, we almost -- maybe even should have -- beat the Patriots.
Why should we fear anyone else?" Last Sunday, that meant the Bucs.
This Sunday, the Cowboys.

Hang around the Giants for a little while, and you hardly recognize
them. Last year's famously divided locker room is now tight and
confident. Guys pass each other and say hi. Players rumored to be
prima donnas (Plaxico Burress) are leaders. Leaders who specialized in
self-promotion (Tiki Barber) are gone. Nowhere in this group will you
find a player who, oh, declares the star quarterback's girlfriend
unwelcome around the team and its fans. Which leads us to ...

3. Jessica Simpson

No, she's not a problem. Nor was Tony Romo vacationing with her last
week in Mexico. But the media's talking about their relationship can
be a problem, not to mention an infuriating irritation for those
involved. On Tuesday, there were three Dallas-area newspaper headlines
referring to Romo's bye-week vacation, compared to one about Terrell
Owens' injured ankle. In Dallas, they're talking about Mexico. In New
York, they're talking about how ...

4. The Giants are hot

By any objective measure, the Cowboys are a better team than the
Giants, with a better coach, better quarterback, better weapons, not
to mention 12 Pro Bowlers. But the Giants have been the better team
during the past month, and being hot matters more than being a No. 1
seed. Just ask the '06 Chargers, '05 Colts, and the '04 and '01
Steelers. And the Giants are on a roll in part because ...

5. They can run

Among backs with 1,000 or more yards, only Adrian Peterson and Fred
Taylor averaged more yards per carry than Brandon Jacobs' 5.0. He's
the next Larry Johnson, minus the enigma factor. Mix in Ahmad Bradshaw
(17 carries for 151 yards against the Bills in Week 16), and New York
has enough to keep Dallas off balance and control the clock. And time
of possession will be a headache for the Cowboys because ...

6. They can't run

Not consistently, anyway. Rushing yards the past five games: 105, 87,
53, 148, 1. (1!) Which wouldn't be such a big deal, but ...

7. Dallas has serious questions at receiver

We know about T.O.'s ankle. He'll gut it out, like he did in Super
Bowl XXXIX. But how effective will he be? Suddenly, the guy who
elevates Dallas' passing game to another level might not even merit a
double team. The Cowboys are happy to have Terry Glenn back, but who
knows what kind of threat he will be after missing virtually the
entire season. Their timing will be off, unlike that of the Giants'
offense, which is reaping the benefits of the fact that ...

8. The rest of the '04 QB class has arrived

Three playoff teams -- Pittsburgh, New York and San Diego -- put the
game into the hands of their respective first-round quarterback from
2004. Opposing defenses wanted the game in the hands of those
quarterbacks. Well, the one with the most playoff success in the past,
Ben Roethlisberger, turned the ball over four times. The ones who
hadn't won a playoff game, Manning and Philip Rivers, carried their
teams to wins. Now, amazingly, Manning has had more playoff success
than Romo, not to mention ...

9. Two good thumbs

--
Seth Wickersham is a senior writer for ESPN The Magazine and a
columnist for ESPN.com.

Husky · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 94

On Jan 9, 3:56 pm, Rick Rockett wrote:
> Electrician wrote:
> > In article ,
> > obser...@shinyfeet.com says...
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> >> Jaguars Will Win
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> > It depends upon how much video Belicheat has in his office closet on the Jags.
> > It's hard not to win when you know the plays and signals of your opponent.
>
> Do you live in a single wide or did you pay the big bucks and go double?

Nah, he's just recovering from Shock Treatment which caused him to
forget that 15+ games have been played, since the Incident in the 1st
qtr of the 1st game!

Mattu · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 51

On Jan 9, 12:47 pm, electric...@xo.com (Electrician) wrote:
> In article ,
> obser...@shinyfeet.com says...
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>
>
> >Jaguars Will Win
>
> It depends upon how much video Belicheat has in his office closet on the Jags.
> It's hard not to win when you know the plays and signals of your opponent.

Root for the Jags since your Super Chargers are gone this weekend.
After the Jags lose you'll have to root for whomever plays the Pats eh
Sparky? When the Pats run the table there's always next year to dust
off the cheating rhetoric. By then it will be ancient history. It's
best to quit now Sparky, save yourself some tears.

observer · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 196

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Top Flops?
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Jaguars Will Win

ESPN, Jeremy Green
http://tinyurl.com/ywfhv3
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Giants Will Win

ESPN, Seth Wickersham
http://tinyurl.com/2bkohp
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Husky · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 94

On Jan 9, 5:00 pm, who'sthat wrote:
> On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 13:57:53 -0600, "observer"
> wrote:
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> >Jaguars Will Win
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> >ESPN, Jeremy Green
> > http://tinyurl.com/ywfhv3
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> >Giants Will Win
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> >ESPN, Seth Wickersham
> > http://tinyurl.com/2bkohp
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> If the Pats lost what would the 2007 Pats be remembered for? The 4th
> team in history to go undefeated in the regular season. And they
> cheated.
ALL TEAMS CHEAT, by your definition. Why are you so selective about
who you accuse?
> When you look at it they really haven't accomplished much yet.

Rick Rockett · Joined: 10 Dec 2007 Posts: 82

Electrician wrote:
> In article ,
> observer@shinyfeet.com says...
>
>> Jaguars Will Win
>>
>
> It depends upon how much video Belicheat has in his office closet on the Jags.
> It's hard not to win when you know the plays and signals of your opponent.
>
Do you live in a single wide or did you pay the big bucks and go double?

who'sthat · Joined: 17 Nov 2007 Posts: 208

On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 13:57:53 -0600, "observer"
wrote:

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>Top Flops?
> http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2008/0109/nfl_brady_romo_war_top.jpg
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>
>---
>Jaguars Will Win
>
>ESPN, Jeremy Green
> http://tinyurl.com/ywfhv3
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>
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>Giants Will Win
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>ESPN, Seth Wickersham
> http://tinyurl.com/2bkohp
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If the Pats lost what would the 2007 Pats be remembered for? The 4th
team in history to go undefeated in the regular season. And they
cheated.
When you look at it they really haven't accomplished much yet.

MZ · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 199

"who'sthat" wrote in message @4ax.com...
> On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 13:57:53 -0600, "observer"
> wrote:
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>>Top Flops?
>> http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2008/0109/nfl_brady_romo_war_top.jpg
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>>Jaguars Will Win
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>>ESPN, Jeremy Green
>> http://tinyurl.com/ywfhv3
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>>Giants Will Win
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>>ESPN, Seth Wickersham
>> http://tinyurl.com/2bkohp
>>---
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> If the Pats lost what would the 2007 Pats be remembered for? The 4th
> team in history to go undefeated in the regular season. And they
> cheated.
> When you look at it they really haven't accomplished much yet.

That's true. Aside from most reg season wins; only one of four teams to go
undefeated in the reg season; points scored record; point differential
record; most passing TDs; most receiving TDs by a single player; and a
variety of other individual records. But none of those will be remembered.

eric · Joined: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 21

On Wed, 09 Jan 2008 20:47:47 +0000, Electrician wrote:

> In article ,
> observer@shinyfeet.com says...
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>>
>>Jaguars Will Win
>>
>>
> It depends upon how much video Belicheat has in his office closet on the
> Jags. It's hard not to win when you know the plays and signals of your
> opponent.

Another moron.

1. I am sure that Belichick has a giant buttload of video.
2. Video is perfectly legal unless you take it from the wrong spot.
3. Stealing signs is also perfectly legal.
4. Every coach knows his opponent's plays from watching video. Also legal.

So what is your point?

Rick Rockett · Joined: 10 Dec 2007 Posts: 82

eric wrote:
> On Wed, 09 Jan 2008 20:47:47 +0000, Electrician wrote:
>
>> In article ,
>> observer@shinyfeet.com says...
>>>
>>> Jaguars Will Win
>>>
>>>
>> It depends upon how much video Belicheat has in his office closet on the
>> Jags. It's hard not to win when you know the plays and signals of your
>> opponent.
>
> Another moron.
>
> 1. I am sure that Belichick has a giant buttload of video.
> 2. Video is perfectly legal unless you take it from the wrong spot.
> 3. Stealing signs is also perfectly legal.
> 4. Every coach knows his opponent's plays from watching video. Also legal.
>
> So what is your point?

Eric...eric...eric. You've fallen into the newsgroup MORON's wily trap!!
Repeat after me: you're right, he cheated and received the harshest
penalty in NFL history!

Preacher · Joined: 28 Sep 2007 Posts: 50

Husky wrote:
> On Jan 9, 2:57 pm, "observer" wrote:
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>> Top Flops?
>> http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2008/0109/nfl_brady_romo_war_top.jpg
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>> ---
>> Jaguars Will Win
>>
>> ESPN, Jeremy Green
>> http://tinyurl.com/ywfhv3
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>> Giants Will Win
>>
>> ESPN, Seth Wickersham
>> http://tinyurl.com/2bkohp
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> That does it. There's no point in watching the games, now.

Of course, the good news is that there's a buttload of money to be made.

Electrician · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 29

In article ,
observer@shinyfeet.com says...
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>Jaguars Will Win
>

It depends upon how much video Belicheat has in his office closet on the Jags.
It's hard not to win when you know the plays and signals of your opponent.

PatsSox · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 113

"Electrician" wrote in message ...
> In article ,
> observer@shinyfeet.com says...
>
> >Jaguars Will Win
> >
>
> It depends upon how much video Belicheat has in his office closet on the
Jags.
> It's hard not to win when you know the plays and signals of your opponent.

Well, damn...... then how do you explain the Jets season?

who'sthat · Joined: 17 Nov 2007 Posts: 208

On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 17:47:26 -0500, "MZ" wrote:

>"who'sthat" wrote in message
>@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 13:57:53 -0600, "observer"
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>---
>>>Top Flops?
>>> http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2008/0109/nfl_brady_romo_war_top.jpg
>>>---
>>>
>>>---
>>>Jaguars Will Win
>>>
>>>ESPN, Jeremy Green
>>> http://tinyurl.com/ywfhv3
>>>---
>>>
>>>---
>>>Giants Will Win
>>>
>>>ESPN, Seth Wickersham
>>> http://tinyurl.com/2bkohp
>>>---
>>>
>> If the Pats lost what would the 2007 Pats be remembered for? The 4th
>> team in history to go undefeated in the regular season. And they
>> cheated.
>> When you look at it they really haven't accomplished much yet.
>
>That's true. Aside from most reg season wins; only one of four teams to go
>undefeated in the reg season; points scored record; point differential
>record; most passing TDs; most receiving TDs by a single player; and a
>variety of other individual records. But none of those will be remembered.
>
Agreed. All that will be said is 16-0 and out. And cheated.