Greatest teams ever?

Manco · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 14

Only 2 come to my mind at true contenders:

1985 Bears(18-1)
1989 49ers(17-2)

Both utterly dominated the regular season in terms of point differential and
dominated their respective post-seasons like no other.

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luvtopost · Joined: 28 Dec 2007 Posts: 5

On Feb 4, 12:50 am, "Manco" wrote:
> Only 2 come to my mind at true contenders:
>
> 1985 Bears(18-1)
> 1989 49ers(17-2)
>
> Both utterly dominated the regular season in terms of point differential and
> dominated their respective post-seasons like no other.

I have to somewhat agree. I would take the 85' Bears over the 89'
49ers though.

Gary Rosen · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 71

"Manco" wrote in message $lr3.240@trndny06...
> Only 2 come to my mind at true contenders:
>
> 1985 Bears(18-1)
> 1989 49ers(17-2)
>
> Both utterly dominated the regular season in terms of point differential
> and dominated their respective post-seasons like no other.

A lot of people, including many old-time 49er fans, rate the 1984 49ers
ahead of the 1989 team. '89 had explosive offense but the '84 team
had better defense. Plus the '84 team, while its regular season schedule
was a little on the soft side, crushed three excellent teams in the
playoffs:

In the NFC they beat the Giants and the Bears, the next two Super
Bowl winners.

In the Super Bowl they dominated a highly-touted Miami team led
by Dan Marino who was coming off a then-record 48 TD season.

The '89 team, as good as it was, was dependent on Montana who
was at the peak of his brilliant career. The '84 team was a better
all-around team and might have won the Super Bowl even with a
lesser QB.

- Gary Rosen

D · Joined: 16 Nov 2007 Posts: 99

On Feb 4, 1:03 am, "Gary Rosen" wrote:
> "Manco" wrote in message
>
> $lr3.240@trndny06...
>
> > Only 2 come to my mind at true contenders:
>
> > 1985 Bears(18-1)
> > 1989 49ers(17-2)
>
> > Both utterly dominated the regular season in terms of point differential
> > and dominated their respective post-seasons like no other.
>
> A lot of people, including many old-time 49er fans, rate the 1984 49ers
> ahead of the 1989 team. '89 had explosive offense but the '84 team
> had better defense. Plus the '84 team, while its regular season schedule
> was a little on the soft side, crushed three excellent teams in the
> playoffs:
>
> In the NFC they beat the Giants and the Bears, the next two Super
> Bowl winners.
>
> In the Super Bowl they dominated a highly-touted Miami team led
> by Dan Marino who was coming off a then-record 48 TD season.
>
> The '89 team, as good as it was, was dependent on Montana who
> was at the peak of his brilliant career. The '84 team was a better
> all-around team and might have won the Super Bowl even with a
> lesser QB.
>
> - Gary Rosen

I have a lot of their games on tape, and I like the 84 team because
Montana was in his physical prime. While he was brilliant in 1989, he
could move and scramble so much more before his 1986 back injury.

-D

Manco · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 14

Gary Rosen wrote:
>
> The '89 team, as good as it was, was dependent on Montana who
> was at the peak of his brilliant career. The '84 team was a better
> all-around team and might have won the Super Bowl even with a
> lesser QB.
>
> - Gary Rosen

Yeah I wanted to put the '84 Niners in there, but the offense wasn't quite
as flashy as the Rice-era 49ers, and offense sells!

Brian K. O'Neill · Joined: 07 Aug 2007 Posts: 40

"Manco" wrote in message $eD3.940@trndny05...

>> The '89 team, as good as it was, was dependent on Montana who
>> was at the peak of his brilliant career. The '84 team was a better
>> all-around team and might have won the Super Bowl even with a
>> lesser QB.

> Yeah I wanted to put the '84 Niners in there, but the offense wasn't quite
> as flashy as the Rice-era 49ers, and offense sells!

Yeah but as we have seen, defense wins championships.

h.oser · Joined: 10 Jan 2008 Posts: 33

On Feb 3, 11:12 pm, "Brian K. O'Neill"
wrote:
> "Manco" wrote in message
>
> $eD3.940@trndny05...
>
> >> The '89 team, as good as it was, was dependent on Montana who
> >> was at the peak of his brilliant career. The '84 team was a better
> >> all-around team and might have won the Super Bowl even with a
> >> lesser QB.
> > Yeah I wanted to put the '84 Niners in there, but the offense wasn't quite
> > as flashy as the Rice-era 49ers, and offense sells!
>
> Yeah but as we have seen, defense wins championships.

The '84 Niner D wasn't too shabby.

Gary Rosen · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 71

wrote in message @i72g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 3, 11:12 pm, "Brian K. O'Neill"
wrote:
> "Manco" wrote in message
>
> $eD3.940@trndny05...
>
> >> The '89 team, as good as it was, was dependent on Montana who
> >> was at the peak of his brilliant career. The '84 team was a better
> >> all-around team and might have won the Super Bowl even with a
> >> lesser QB.
> > Yeah I wanted to put the '84 Niners in there, but the offense wasn't
> > quite
> > as flashy as the Rice-era 49ers, and offense sells!
>
> Yeah but as we have seen, defense wins championships.

The '84 Niner D wasn't too shabby.

=========================

That was my point, although obviously the '89 team also had
a very good defense (just ask the Broncos).

- Gary Rosen

Ray Murphy · Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 4

"D" wrote in message @d4g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 4, 1:03 am, "Gary Rosen" wrote:
>> "Manco" wrote in message
>>
>> $lr3.240@trndny06...
>>
>> > Only 2 come to my mind at true contenders:
>>
>> > 1985 Bears(18-1)
>> > 1989 49ers(17-2)
>>
>> > Both utterly dominated the regular season in terms of point
>> > differential
>> > and dominated their respective post-seasons like no other.
>>
>> A lot of people, including many old-time 49er fans, rate the 1984 49ers
>> ahead of the 1989 team. '89 had explosive offense but the '84 team
>> had better defense. Plus the '84 team, while its regular season schedule
>> was a little on the soft side, crushed three excellent teams in the
>> playoffs:
>>
>> In the NFC they beat the Giants and the Bears, the next two Super
>> Bowl winners.
>>
>> In the Super Bowl they dominated a highly-touted Miami team led
>> by Dan Marino who was coming off a then-record 48 TD season.
>>
>> The '89 team, as good as it was, was dependent on Montana who
>> was at the peak of his brilliant career. The '84 team was a better
>> all-around team and might have won the Super Bowl even with a
>> lesser QB.
>>
>> - Gary Rosen
>
> I have a lot of their games on tape, and I like the 84 team because
> Montana was in his physical prime. While he was brilliant in 1989, he
> could move and scramble so much more before his 1986 back injury.
>
> -D

I guess they won't be comparing Brady to Montana anymore. Joe didn't lose
Superbowls.

Manco · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 14

Gary Rosen wrote:
> =========================
>
> That was my point, although obviously the '89 team also had
> a very good defense (just ask the Broncos).
>
> - Gary Rosen

All I know is 55-10 will stand for all time.

3Rivers Writer · Joined: 07 Oct 2007 Posts: 10

Re: Greatest teams ever?

Group: alt.sports.football.pro.ne-patriots Date: Mon, Feb 4, 2008,
8:49am (EST+5) From: manco_dollars@net2blah.com (Manco)
Gary Rosen wrote:
=========================
That was my point, although obviously the '89 team also had a very good
defense (just ask the Broncos).
- Gary Rosen
All I know is 55-10 will stand for all time.

When all you adolescents are done playing with your pimples, do a little
research on the 1970s Steelers, the dynasty that won 4 Super Bowls in 6
years, with the only coach that has won 4 Super Bowls (Chuck Noll).

In case you missed it, the fans voted that team the greatest dynasty
ever on FOX's on-line poll last nite after the game.

Black and Gold Forever!

FA!

Julio Sanchez · Joined: 20 Nov 2007 Posts: 9

On Feb 7, 2:17 pm, E Wollmann wrote:
> On 03 Feb 2008, "Gary Rosen" posted some@comcast.com:
>
>
>
>
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> > "Manco" wrote in message
> >$lr3.240@trndny06...
> >> Only 2 come to my mind at true contenders:
>
> >> 1985 Bears(18-1)
> >> 1989 49ers(17-2)
>
> >> Both utterly dominated the regular season in terms of point
> >> differential and dominated their respective post-seasons like no
> >> other.
>
> > A lot of people, including many old-time 49er fans, rate the 1984
> > 49ers ahead of the 1989 team. '89 had explosive offense but the '84
> > team had better defense. Plus the '84 team, while its regular season
> > schedule was a little on the soft side, crushed three excellent teams
> > in the playoffs:
>
> > In the NFC they beat the Giants and the Bears, the next two Super
> > Bowl winners.
>
> > In the Super Bowl they dominated a highly-touted Miami team led
> > by Dan Marino who was coming off a then-record 48 TD season.
>
> > The '89 team, as good as it was, was dependent on Montana who
> > was at the peak of his brilliant career. The '84 team was a better
> > all-around team and might have won the Super Bowl even with a
> > lesser QB.
>
> > - Gary Rosen
>
> Of course, those teams had class and integrity. Something the current
> Patriot regime is utterly lacking.- Hide quoted text -
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