Top 10 QBs as of Sunday, November 19, 2007

observer · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 196

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Name Team Com Att Pct Yds YPA Lng TD TD% Int Int% Sk Rating

1 Tom Brady QB, NWE ...... 250 338 74.0 3059 9.05 69 38 11.2 4 1.2 10.0 134.0
2 B. Roethlisberger QB, PIT 175 267 65.5 2215 8.30 45 23 8.6 8 3.0 30.0 107.5
3 Tony Romo QB, DAL ....... 212 324 65.4 2848 8.79 59 27 8.3 12 3.7 13.0 105.6
4 D. Garrard QB, JAC ......... 113 172 65.7 1330 7.73 47 8 4.7 0 .0 16.0 104.6
5 B. Favre QB, GNB ........... 260 384 67.7 2975 7.75 82 19 4.9 8 2.1 14.0 98.6
6 J. Garcia QB, TAM .......... 180 278 64.7 2126 7.65 69 11 4.0 3 1.1 14.0 96.6
7 M. Hasselbeck QB, SEA .. 230 364 63.2 2638 7.25 65 17 4.7 8 2.2 18.0 91.3
8 Jon Kitna QB, DET ........... 230 341 67.4 2673 7.84 91 13 3.8 11 3.2 40.0 90.2
9 D. Anderson QB, CLE ...... 188 330 57.0 2505 7.59 78 20 6.1 10 3.0 10.0 88.8
10 K. Warner QB, ARI .......... 124 206 60.2 1525 7.40 47 11 5.3 6 2.9 9.0 88.8

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Captain America · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 7

Venger wrote:
> observer wrote:
>> ---
>>
>> Name Team Com Att Pct Yds YPA Lng TD TD%
>> Int Int% Sk Rating
>>
>> 1 Tom Brady QB, NWE ...... 250 338 74.0 3059 9.05 69 38 11.2 4
>> 1.2 10.0 134.0
>> 2 B. Roethlisberger QB, PIT 175 267 65.5 2215 8.30 45 23 8.6
>> 8 3.0 30.0 107.5
>> 3 Tony Romo QB, DAL ....... 212 324 65.4 2848 8.79 59 27 8.3
>> 12 3.7 13.0 105.6
>> 4 D. Garrard QB, JAC ......... 113 172 65.7 1330 7.73 47 8
>> 4.7 0 .0 16.0 104.6
>> 5 B. Favre QB, GNB ........... 260 384 67.7 2975 7.75 82 19
>> 4.9 8 2.1 14.0 98.6
>> 6 J. Garcia QB, TAM .......... 180 278 64.7 2126 7.65 69 11
>> 4.0 3 1.1 14.0 96.6
>> 7 M. Hasselbeck QB, SEA .. 230 364 63.2 2638 7.25 65 17 4.7
>> 8 2.2 18.0 91.3
>> 8 Jon Kitna QB, DET ........... 230 341 67.4 2673 7.84 91 13
>> 3.8 11 3.2 40.0 90.2
>> 9 D. Anderson QB, CLE ...... 188 330 57.0 2505 7.59 78 20 6.1
>> 10 3.0 10.0 88.8
>> 10 K. Warner QB, ARI .......... 124 206 60.2 1525 7.40 47 11
>> 5.3 6 2.9 9.0 88.8
>>
>> ---
>>
>>
>
> Wow, this is almost readable.
>
> Why not simply post a link to the stats at any of 158943256 different
> sites that have the same information, but in usable form?
>
> Venger

thou does't protest too much

Tarkus · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 75

observer wrote:
> "Venger" wrote ...
>> Why not simply post a link to the stats at any of 158943256 different
>> sites that have the same information, but in usable form?
>
> Alternative display (less data):
>
> ---
>
> Name Team Com Att Pct Yds YPA Lg TD Int Sk Rating
>
> 1 Tom Brady NE ... 250 338 74.0 3059 9.05 69 38 4 10 134.0
> 2 B. Roethlis. Pit ... 175 267 65.5 2215 8.30 45 23 8 30 107.5
> 3 Tony Romo Dal .. 212 324 65.4 2848 8.79 59 27 12 13 105.6
> 4 D. Garrard Jac ... 113 172 65.7 1330 7.73 47 8 0 16 104.6
> 5 B. Favre GB ....... 260 384 67.7 2975 7.75 82 19 8 14 98.6
> 6 J. Garcia TB ....... 180 278 64.7 2126 7.65 69 11 3 14 96.6
> 7 M. Hass. Sea ....... 230 364 63.2 2638 7.25 65 17 8 18 91.3
> 8 Jon Kitna Det ...... 230 341 67.4 2673 7.84 91 13 11 40 90.2
> 9 D. Anderson Cle . 188 330 57.0 2505 7.59 78 20 10 10 88.8
> 10 K. Warner Ari ..... 124 206 60.2 1525 7.40 47 11 6 9 88.8

The problem is not the data, but the fact that proportional fonts (which
almost everyone is using) scrambles the alignment of the data.

But we still get the point, that your guy is #3 on the chart. Maybe you
could have condensed it further by just coming right out and saying that.

Venger · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 55

observer wrote:
> ---
>
> Name Team Com Att Pct Yds YPA Lng TD TD% Int Int% Sk Rating
>
> 1 Tom Brady QB, NWE ...... 250 338 74.0 3059 9.05 69 38 11.2 4 1.2 10.0 134.0
> 2 B. Roethlisberger QB, PIT 175 267 65.5 2215 8.30 45 23 8.6 8 3.0 30.0 107.5
> 3 Tony Romo QB, DAL ....... 212 324 65.4 2848 8.79 59 27 8.3 12 3.7 13.0 105.6
> 4 D. Garrard QB, JAC ......... 113 172 65.7 1330 7.73 47 8 4.7 0 .0 16.0 104.6
> 5 B. Favre QB, GNB ........... 260 384 67.7 2975 7.75 82 19 4.9 8 2.1 14.0 98.6
> 6 J. Garcia QB, TAM .......... 180 278 64.7 2126 7.65 69 11 4.0 3 1.1 14.0 96.6
> 7 M. Hasselbeck QB, SEA .. 230 364 63.2 2638 7.25 65 17 4.7 8 2.2 18.0 91.3
> 8 Jon Kitna QB, DET ........... 230 341 67.4 2673 7.84 91 13 3.8 11 3.2 40.0 90.2
> 9 D. Anderson QB, CLE ...... 188 330 57.0 2505 7.59 78 20 6.1 10 3.0 10.0 88.8
> 10 K. Warner QB, ARI .......... 124 206 60.2 1525 7.40 47 11 5.3 6 2.9 9.0 88.8
>
> ---
>
>

Wow, this is almost readable.

Why not simply post a link to the stats at any of 158943256 different
sites that have the same information, but in usable form?

Venger

Broncofan · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 17

On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 10:12:10 -0800, Tarkus
wrote:

>observer wrote:
>> "Venger" wrote ...
>>> Why not simply post a link to the stats at any of 158943256 different
>>> sites that have the same information, but in usable form?
>>
>> Alternative display (less data):
>>
>> ---
>>
>> Name Team Com Att Pct Yds YPA Lg TD Int Sk Rating
>>
>> 1 Tom Brady NE ... 250 338 74.0 3059 9.05 69 38 4 10 134.0
>> 2 B. Roethlis. Pit ... 175 267 65.5 2215 8.30 45 23 8 30 107.5
>> 3 Tony Romo Dal .. 212 324 65.4 2848 8.79 59 27 12 13 105.6
>> 4 D. Garrard Jac ... 113 172 65.7 1330 7.73 47 8 0 16 104.6
>> 5 B. Favre GB ....... 260 384 67.7 2975 7.75 82 19 8 14 98.6
>> 6 J. Garcia TB ....... 180 278 64.7 2126 7.65 69 11 3 14 96.6
>> 7 M. Hass. Sea ....... 230 364 63.2 2638 7.25 65 17 8 18 91.3
>> 8 Jon Kitna Det ...... 230 341 67.4 2673 7.84 91 13 11 40 90.2
>> 9 D. Anderson Cle . 188 330 57.0 2505 7.59 78 20 10 10 88.8
>> 10 K. Warner Ari ..... 124 206 60.2 1525 7.40 47 11 6 9 88.8
>
>The problem is not the data, but the fact that proportional fonts (which
>almost everyone is using) scrambles the alignment of the data.
>
>But we still get the point, that your guy is #3 on the chart. Maybe you
>could have condensed it further by just coming right out and saying that.

How is Peyton Manning not on the list?

This is not possible.

observer · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 196

"Venger" wrote ...
>
> Why not simply post a link to the stats at any of 158943256 different
> sites that have the same information, but in usable form?

Alternative display (less data):

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Name Team Com Att Pct Yds YPA Lg TD Int Sk Rating

1 Tom Brady NE ... 250 338 74.0 3059 9.05 69 38 4 10 134.0
2 B. Roethlis. Pit ... 175 267 65.5 2215 8.30 45 23 8 30 107.5
3 Tony Romo Dal .. 212 324 65.4 2848 8.79 59 27 12 13 105.6
4 D. Garrard Jac ... 113 172 65.7 1330 7.73 47 8 0 16 104.6
5 B. Favre GB ....... 260 384 67.7 2975 7.75 82 19 8 14 98.6
6 J. Garcia TB ....... 180 278 64.7 2126 7.65 69 11 3 14 96.6
7 M. Hass. Sea ....... 230 364 63.2 2638 7.25 65 17 8 18 91.3
8 Jon Kitna Det ...... 230 341 67.4 2673 7.84 91 13 11 40 90.2
9 D. Anderson Cle . 188 330 57.0 2505 7.59 78 20 10 10 88.8
10 K. Warner Ari ..... 124 206 60.2 1525 7.40 47 11 6 9 88.8

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Tarkus · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 75

Broncofan wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 10:12:10 -0800, Tarkus
> wrote:
>
>> observer wrote:
>>> "Venger" wrote ...
>>>> Why not simply post a link to the stats at any of 158943256 different
>>>> sites that have the same information, but in usable form?
>>> Alternative display (less data):
>>>
>>> ---
>>>
>>> Name Team Com Att Pct Yds YPA Lg TD Int Sk Rating
>>>
>>> 1 Tom Brady NE ... 250 338 74.0 3059 9.05 69 38 4 10 134.0
>>> 2 B. Roethlis. Pit ... 175 267 65.5 2215 8.30 45 23 8 30 107.5
>>> 3 Tony Romo Dal .. 212 324 65.4 2848 8.79 59 27 12 13 105.6
>>> 4 D. Garrard Jac ... 113 172 65.7 1330 7.73 47 8 0 16 104.6
>>> 5 B. Favre GB ....... 260 384 67.7 2975 7.75 82 19 8 14 98.6
>>> 6 J. Garcia TB ....... 180 278 64.7 2126 7.65 69 11 3 14 96.6
>>> 7 M. Hass. Sea ....... 230 364 63.2 2638 7.25 65 17 8 18 91.3
>>> 8 Jon Kitna Det ...... 230 341 67.4 2673 7.84 91 13 11 40 90.2
>>> 9 D. Anderson Cle . 188 330 57.0 2505 7.59 78 20 10 10 88.8
>>> 10 K. Warner Ari ..... 124 206 60.2 1525 7.40 47 11 6 9 88.8
>> The problem is not the data, but the fact that proportional fonts (which
>> almost everyone is using) scrambles the alignment of the data.
>>
>> But we still get the point, that your guy is #3 on the chart. Maybe you
>> could have condensed it further by just coming right out and saying that.
>
> How is Peyton Manning not on the list?
>
> This is not possible.

His performance against the Chiefs didn't help.

That and not having Marvin Harrison and key players on his OL for much
of the season.

But that's not important. What's important is that Romo is #3. God
forbid he make it to #1; we'll never hear the end of it.

observer · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 196

"James Farrar" wrote ...
>
> On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 10:12:10 -0800, Tarkus
> wrote:
>
> >observer wrote ...
> >>
> >> "Venger" wrote ...
> >>>
> >>> Why not simply post a link to the stats at any of 158943256 different
> >>> sites that have the same information, but in usable form?
> >>
> >> Alternative display (less data):
> >>
> >> ---
> >>
> >> Name Team Com Att Pct Yds YPA Lg TD Int Sk Rating
> >>
> >> 1 Tom Brady NE ... 250 338 74.0 3059 9.05 69 38 4 10 134.0
> >> 2 B. Roethlis. Pit ... 175 267 65.5 2215 8.30 45 23 8 30 107.5
> >> 3 Tony Romo Dal .. 212 324 65.4 2848 8.79 59 27 12 13 105.6
> >> 4 D. Garrard Jac ... 113 172 65.7 1330 7.73 47 8 0 16 104.6
> >> 5 B. Favre GB ....... 260 384 67.7 2975 7.75 82 19 8 14 98.6
> >> 6 J. Garcia TB ....... 180 278 64.7 2126 7.65 69 11 3 14 96.6
> >> 7 M. Hass. Sea ....... 230 364 63.2 2638 7.25 65 17 8 18 91.3
> >> 8 Jon Kitna Det ...... 230 341 67.4 2673 7.84 91 13 11 40 90.2
> >> 9 D. Anderson Cle . 188 330 57.0 2505 7.59 78 20 10 10 88.8
> >> 10 K. Warner Ari ..... 124 206 60.2 1525 7.40 47 11 6 9 88.8
> >
> >The problem is not the data, but the fact that proportional fonts (which
> >almost everyone is using) scrambles the alignment of the data.
>
> It's scrambled in fixed-width, too.
>
> When posting tabulated data to Usenet, one should always use a
> fixed-width font...

Arial is used for composition. Readers
control what font they read in. Key point
is the availability of the data, regardless
of display anomalies due to personal
choices on what font to use.

Text format is not conducive to columnar
displays, -but- it does offer valuable
archival records which are useful to
those more interested in what is being
shown rather than columnar perfection
(for that, HTML, tables, and the like -or-
a fixed font are required, but most don't
use fixed fonts and most prefer that HTML
and tables, as well as graphic presentments,
be absent from the newsgroup).

Above data (and more) presented in
another alternative format:

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Top 11 -- Completion Percent

1 Tom Brady ... 74.0
2 B. Favre ....... 67.7
3 Jon Kitna ...... 67.4
4 Drew Brees .. 67.4
5 C. Pennington 67.4
6 M. Schaub .... 67.3
7 Jay Cutler ..... 65.8
8 C. Palmer ..... 65.8
9 D. Garrard ... 65.7
10 B. Roethl. ..... 65.5
11 Tony Romo ... 65.4

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Top 11 -- Yards

1 Tom Brady ..... 3059
2 B. Favre ......... 2975
3 Tony Romo .... 2848
4 C. Palmer ....... 2793
5 Drew Brees .... 2737
6 Jon Kitna ........ 2673
7 M. Hasselbeck 2638
8 P. Manning ..... 2549
9 D. Anderson ... 2505
10 D. McNabb .... 2329
11 B. Roethl. ....... 2215

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Top 11 -- Yards per Attempt

1 Tom Brady ...... 9.05
2 Tony Romo ..... 8.79
3 B. Roethl. ........ 8.30
4 M. Schaub ....... 7.87
5 Jon Kitna ......... 7.84
6 B. Favre .......... 7.75
7 Jay Cutler ........ 7.74
8 D. Garrard ....... 7.73
9 J. Garcia .......... 7.65
10 D. Anderson .... 7.59
11 K. Warner ....... 7.40

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Top 11 -- TD Passes

1 Tom Brady ....... 38
2 Tony Romo ...... 27
3 B. Roethl. ......... 23
4 D. Anderson ..... 20
5 B. Favre ........... 19
6 C. Palmer ......... 18
7 M. Hasselbeck . 17
8 P. Manning ....... 16
9 Drew Brees ...... 15
E. Manning ....... 15
11 Jon Kitna .......... 13
D. McNabb ....... 13

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Top 11 -- Lowest Interception %

1 D. Garrard ........ 0.0
2 J. Garcia ........... 1.1
3 Tom Brady ........ 1.2
4 J. Harrington ..... 1.8
5 D. McNabb ....... 1.8
6 S. McNair ......... 2.0
7 Alex Smith ........ 2.1
8 B. Favre ............ 2.1
9 M. Hasselbeck .. 2.2
10 Cleo Lemon ....... 2.4
11 J. Campbell ....... 2.5

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Top 10 -- Fewest Times Sacked

1 T. Green ............ 7.0
2 Drew Brees ....... 8.0
3 K. Warner .......... 9.0
4 Tom Brady ........ 10.0
Cleo Lemon ....... 10.0
D. Anderson ...... 10.0
7 S. McNair ......... 11.0
8 P. Manning ........ 12.0
K. Boller ........... 12.0
10 Tony Romo ........ 13.0
M. Schaub .......... 13.0
B. Griese ............ 13.0
P. Rivers ............ 13.0

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Top 11 -- Passer-Rating

1 Tom Brady ......... 134.0
2 B. Roethl. ........... 107.5
3 Tony Romo ......... 105.6
4 D. Garrard .......... 104.6
5 B. Favre .............. 98.6
6 J. Garcia .............. 96.6
7 M. Hasselbeck ..... 91.3
8 Jon Kitna .............. 90.2
9 Jay Cutler ............. 88.9
10 D. Anderson ......... 88.8
11 K. Warner ............ 88.8

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James Farrar · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 15

On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 10:12:10 -0800, Tarkus
wrote:

>observer wrote:
>> "Venger" wrote ...
>>> Why not simply post a link to the stats at any of 158943256 different
>>> sites that have the same information, but in usable form?
>>
>> Alternative display (less data):
>>
>> ---
>>
>> Name Team Com Att Pct Yds YPA Lg TD Int Sk Rating
>>
>> 1 Tom Brady NE ... 250 338 74.0 3059 9.05 69 38 4 10 134.0
>> 2 B. Roethlis. Pit ... 175 267 65.5 2215 8.30 45 23 8 30 107.5
>> 3 Tony Romo Dal .. 212 324 65.4 2848 8.79 59 27 12 13 105.6
>> 4 D. Garrard Jac ... 113 172 65.7 1330 7.73 47 8 0 16 104.6
>> 5 B. Favre GB ....... 260 384 67.7 2975 7.75 82 19 8 14 98.6
>> 6 J. Garcia TB ....... 180 278 64.7 2126 7.65 69 11 3 14 96.6
>> 7 M. Hass. Sea ....... 230 364 63.2 2638 7.25 65 17 8 18 91.3
>> 8 Jon Kitna Det ...... 230 341 67.4 2673 7.84 91 13 11 40 90.2
>> 9 D. Anderson Cle . 188 330 57.0 2505 7.59 78 20 10 10 88.8
>> 10 K. Warner Ari ..... 124 206 60.2 1525 7.40 47 11 6 9 88.8
>
>The problem is not the data, but the fact that proportional fonts (which
>almost everyone is using) scrambles the alignment of the data.

It's scrambled in fixed-width, too.

When posting tabulated data to Usenet, one should always use a
fixed-width font...

James Farrar · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 15

On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 06:15:22 -0600, "observer"
wrote:

>
>"James Farrar" wrote ...
>>
>> It's scrambled in fixed-width, too.
>>
>> When posting tabulated data to Usenet, one should always use a
>> fixed-width font...
>
>Arial is used for composition.

Well, it shouldn't be, since it is a proportional font.