Carolina Panthers

Drew K. · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 32

alto wrote:
> "Drew K." wrote in message
> @sbcglobal.net...
>
>>I still want to know why they allowed the play to continue. There was no
>>whistle, no attempt to rule the play dead, and the announcers said
>>nothing. Very odd.
>
>
> when you said the announcers said nothing, are you watching the actual
> coverage? i saw the clip that they replayed and the announcers did say:
> "..they run it back, just for fun..." or something to that effect.
>
>
> -alto-
>
>

Actual coverage. I heard nothing from them. -drew

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Kevin Logemann · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 2

In article ,
"GAIL A. FULLMAN" writes:
|>
|>>
|>Recall Thanksgiving Day, I don't remember the year, Dallas vs. Miami.
|> PAT was blocked but who was the Dallas player that touched the ball and
|>allowed Miami to score? Don't recall all the details but that was the
|>year every player in the league leanred that rule.

That was a blocked FG, not a PAT. It went past the line of scrimmage,
after which Leon Lett dove on it for no good reason, only to muff it
and have it receovered by Miami.

Dolphins then proceed to kick a FG again (from about 15-20 yards
closer) and convert for the win.

PAT's are not returnable (even 2 pt. conversion attempts are not
returnable in the NFL, but are in college).

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|
| Winning is not everything, but the effort to win is...
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Drew K. · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 32

Todd Hawley wrote:
> On 15 Sep 2003 02:32:57 GMT, mpoconnor7@aol.comnojunk (Mpoconnor7)
> wrote:
>
>
>>I wish there was a rule on a two point conversion play that if the Defense
>>intercepts the ball or recovers a fumble on the play, the Defensive team should
>>get a point. It would add a little more risk to going for two, and force pass
>>defenders to try for the interception as opposed to just trying to knock the
>>ball on the ground.
>
>
> The NCAA allows the defensive team to run back an interception or
> fumble after a 2 point conversion. If the defensive team makes it to
> the other end zone, they get two points. I'd love to see that in the
> NFL.
>
> And yeah that must have been a helluva defensive game in TB yesterday.
>
> -th

That's a great way to put it actually; it was indeed a helluva defensive
game....smashmouth, indeed. I loved watching it.

They say Tampa's D might rival some of the great D's of all time, but I
am not sure they're even the best this year after seeing Carolina's.
It's early but so far Carolina's D is number one in my book. But again
it's only week two, so we'll just see.

GO Steelers
--
Drew

Drew K. · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 32

alto wrote:
> "Drew K." wrote in message
> @sbcglobal.net...
>
>>I still want to know why they allowed the play to continue. There was no
>>whistle, no attempt to rule the play dead, and the announcers said
>>nothing. Very odd.
>
>
> when you said the announcers said nothing, are you watching the actual
> coverage? i saw the clip that they replayed and the announcers did say:
> "..they run it back, just for fun..." or something to that effect.
>
>
> -alto-
>
>
Just to clarify things, Alto, on the national broadcast they said nothing.

I think the clip you were referring to was that of I believe, the Panthers
announcers, in which both announcers yelled "BLOCKED!" And one of the
announcers said: "Pick it up!" and the other one said "dead ball, it's a
dead ball" or something along those lines. Is that the clip you heard?

Go Steelers
--
Drew

philip · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 10

They were just as guilty as the players of
> forgetting the rule, as I saw everyone of the officials going along with
> the attempted run back of the blocked PAT and they even marked the spot
> where the play ended which was silly as well when you considered there
> was no time left on the clock.
>
> Eh, but it turned out to be nothing. Can you imagine if the Panthers
> scored on that return and attempted backward lateral?-drew

I hope the officials got reemed for. There's no exuse for an NFL official
not knowing the rules. There too much money at stake.

Bob B Ballz · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 7

In article ,
"Drew K." wrote:

> Tonawanda Kardex wrote:
> > On 9/14/03 4:29 PM, in article 3F64F957.4050407@sbcglobal.net, "Drew K."
> > contributed to the U.S. Constitution in the midst of
> > saying:
> >
> >
> >>Is their special teams and defense incredible or what?
> >>
> >>Amazing, to say the least. 3 blocked in total, two FG's, and an extra
> >>point attempt as well, to win the game for Tampa; they almost ran it
> >>back as well.
> >
> >
> > Can you run back a blocked PAT in the NFL?
> >
> > I wish I could see the game. Gruden is probably fuming.
> >
>
> Yes, the Defense can. They almost did. Got tackled on at mid field after
> a lateral. Saurbraun is attempting a 46 yarder. GOOD! Game over. 12-9,
> Carolina. Break them out. They looked good on D. But time will tell. The
> offense is, eh, and the QB position is like a revolving door. But they
> are definitely a hard foe on your schedule if you have them.
>
>
> Go Steelers
> --
> Drew
>

No Drewsy, they can't.

The Try Rules:
from: http://www.nfl.com/fans/rules/try

NFL Digest of Rules

Try

1. After a touchdown, the scoring team is allowed a try during one
scrimmage down. The ball may be spotted anywhere between the inbounds
lines, two or more yards from the goal line. The successful conversion
counts one point by kick; two points for a successful conversion by
touchdown; or one point for a safety.

2. The defensive team never can score on a try. As soon as defense
gets possession or the kick is blocked or a touchdown is not scored, the
try is over.

3. Any distance penalty for fouls committed by the defense that
prevent the try from being attempted can be enforced on the succeeding
try or succeeding kickoff. Any foul committed on a successful try will
result in a distance penalty being assessed on the ensuing kickoff.

4. Only the fumbling player can recover and advance a fumble
during a try.

Drew K. · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 32

Bob B Ballz wrote:
> In article ,
> "Drew K." wrote:
>
>
>>Tonawanda Kardex wrote:
>>
>>>On 9/14/03 4:29 PM, in article 3F64F957.4050407@sbcglobal.net, "Drew K."
>>> contributed to the U.S. Constitution in the midst of
>>>saying:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Is their special teams and defense incredible or what?
>>>>
>>>>Amazing, to say the least. 3 blocked in total, two FG's, and an extra
>>>>point attempt as well, to win the game for Tampa; they almost ran it
>>>>back as well.
>>>
>>>
>>>Can you run back a blocked PAT in the NFL?
>>>
>>>I wish I could see the game. Gruden is probably fuming.
>>>
>>
>>Yes, the Defense can. They almost did. Got tackled on at mid field after
>>a lateral. Saurbraun is attempting a 46 yarder. GOOD! Game over. 12-9,
>>Carolina. Break them out. They looked good on D. But time will tell. The
>>offense is, eh, and the QB position is like a revolving door. But they
>>are definitely a hard foe on your schedule if you have them.
>>
>>
>>Go Steelers
>>--
>>Drew
>>
>
>
> No Drewsy, they can't.
>
>

Try reading the rest of the thread BallZ. Man you're slow.

Drew K. · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 32

philip wrote:
> They were just as guilty as the players of
>
>>forgetting the rule, as I saw everyone of the officials going along with
>>the attempted run back of the blocked PAT and they even marked the spot
>>where the play ended which was silly as well when you considered there
>>was no time left on the clock.
>>
>>Eh, but it turned out to be nothing. Can you imagine if the Panthers
>>scored on that return and attempted backward lateral?-drew
>
>
> I hope the officials got reemed for. There's no exuse for an NFL official
> not knowing the rules. There too much money at stake.
>
>
>

Don't hold your breath; they won't. Some say they(the officials) let the
play continue knowing it's moot. If they know it's moot, blow it dead,
save everyone the effort and possibility of injury.-drew

M. Zaiem Beg · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 54

On Mon, 15 Sep 2003, Drew K. wrote:

->I still want to know why they allowed the play to continue. There was no
->whistle, no attempt to rule the play dead, and the announcers said
->nothing. Very odd.
->

According to TMQ, they did blow their whistles but they didn't stop until
midfield.

"Delightfully, Carolina players scooped up the blocked PAT and got most of
the way down the field as zebras whistled madly."

You wouldn't question TMQ, would you? Smile

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Drew K. · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 32

M. Zaiem Beg wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Sep 2003, Drew K. wrote:
>
> ->I still want to know why they allowed the play to continue. There was no
> ->whistle, no attempt to rule the play dead, and the announcers said
> ->nothing. Very odd.
> ->
>
> According to TMQ, they did blow their whistles but they didn't stop until
> midfield.
>
> "Delightfully, Carolina players scooped up the blocked PAT and got most of
> the way down the field as zebras whistled madly."
>
> You wouldn't question TMQ, would you? Smile

>

Hmm, I watched the game and saw refs following the Panthers scoop up the
ball and return it to mid field; I didn't see or hear a whistle.
Whistled madly? Okay, probably the silent whistle. lol -drew