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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 7:17 pm    Post subject: NFL's -14- All-Time Greatest Teams (List 2 of 3) Reply with quote

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List 2 of 3

.. Cowboys of 1970s
.. Cowboys of 1990s

.. Dolphins of 1972

.. Eagles of 1948-49

.. Lions of 1950s

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Cowboys of 1970s

From 1966-1985, coach Tom Landry's Cowboys set
an NFL record of 20 consecutive winning seasons,
including 13 division titles, 18 playoffs, and 12 NFL
or NFC championship games. They won two Super
Bowls and lost three in the 1970s, when they battled
the Steelers for supremacy, losing to them 21-17 and
35-31 in Super Bowls X and XIII.

Relying on Roger Staubach's clutch quarterbacking
and Landry's Doomsday Defense, the Cowboys
proudly wore the banner and sometimes carried the
burden of being labeled "America's Team."

Photo: Dallas quarterback Roger Staubach
evades a New York Giants defender.
http://tinyurl.com/yvclgz

Coach: Tom Landry

Record: 105-39 during 1970s.

Titles: Two -- 1971, 1977

Key players: QB Roger Staubach, DT Bob Lilly,
T Rayfield Wright, CB Mel Renfro, LB Chuck Howley,
G John Niland, LB Lee Roy Jordan, RB Calvin Hill,
S Cliff Harris, WR Drew Pearson, DT Randy Wright,
RB Tony Dorsett, DE Harvey Martin, RB Walt Garri-
son, T Ralph Neely, DE Ed "Too Tall" Jones.

Area of excellence: Coach-quarterback combination,
defense. Throughout the decade, the Cowboys ranked
among the top five in both offensive and defensive
yardage in seven of 10 seasons, finishing first in both
in 1977.

Weakest aspect: Mike Clark, Tony Fritsch, Efren
Herrera, Mac Percival, and Rafael Septien kicked
during the 70s, none with great distinction.

Stat to know: During the 70s, the Cowboys never
ranked lower than sixth on offense or eighth on
defense.

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Cowboys of 1990s

The last dynasty before the advent of free agency,
new owner Jerry Jones assembled a dominant roster
led by quarterback Troy Aikman, running back
Emmitt Smith and receiver Michael Irvin.

Similar to the Miami teams of the 1970s, the Cow-
boys' efficient ball-control offense helped their
1992 defense finish first in the league without a
single player elected to the Pro Bowl.

The Cowboys played the 49ers in three straight
NFC title games, winning in 1992-93 and losing
in 1994.

Photo: Michael Irvin, left, Troy Aikman, center,
and Emmitt Smith won three Super Bowls with
the Cowboys in the 1990s.
http://tinyurl.com/yuk3wd

Coach: Jimmy Johnson 1989-93,
Barry Switzer 1994-97.

Record: 49-15 from 1992-95

Titles: Three --1992-93, 1995.

Key players: QB Troy Aikman, RB Emmitt Smith,
WR Michael Irvin, TE Jay Novacek, LB Ken Norton,
C Mark Stepnoski, G Nate Newton, FB Daryl Johnston,
DE Charles Haley, S Darren Woodson, DT Leon Lett,
DT Russell Maryland, T Erik Williams.

Area of excellence: Overall superior talent, combin-
ation running and defense. Rival scouts conceded
individual matchups.

Weakest aspect: The three title teams featured three
different placekickers, Lin Elliott, Eddie Murray and
Chris Boniol and two punters, Mike Saxon and John
Jett.

Stat to know: Among the players who arrived in
Dallas as a result of the 1989 trade of RB Herschel
Walker to Minnesota were Emmitt Smith, Russell
Maryland, Kevin Smith and Darren Woodson.

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Dolphins of 1972

The only 17-0 team in NFL history, coach Don Shula's
Dolphins lay legitimate claim to the best of all time by
simply pointing at the impeccable record. A loss to
Dallas in Super Bowl VI propelled them to the perfect
1972 season and they followed it with a repeat Super
Bowl victory after a 12-2 season in 1973.

Shula relied on defense and the power running of Larry
Csonka and speed of Mercury Morris with occasional
play-action passes from Bob Griese to Paul Warfield.
The Dolphins seldom overwhelmed anybody, but never
beat themselves. The 1972 team outscored opponents
by more than 200 points, further validating their accom-
plishment.

Photo: Bob Griese waits for the snap against
the Minnesota Vikings in Super Bowl VIII.
http://tinyurl.com/yuqgk6

Coach: Don Shula

Record: 17-0, 32-2 over 1972-73 seasons, including
playoffs.

Titles: Two -- 1972-73.

Key players: RB Larry Csonka, WR Paul Warfield,
QB Earl Morrall, QB Bob Griese, S Jake Scott, S Dick
Anderson, DT Manny Fernandez, C Jim Langer, G Larry
Little, LB Nick Buoniconti, DE Vern Den Herder,
DE Bill Stanfill, LB Doug Swift, RB Mercury Morris,
T Norm Evans, G Bob Kuechenberg.

Area of excellence: Running and defense. It was simple
football executed to perfection.

Weakest aspect: The only area in which the 1972 Dol-
phins did not beat opponents was in touchdowns by
returns. The Dolphins scored on two and opponents
scored on three.

Stat to know: In Super Bowl VII, the Dolphins threw
only 11 passes, completing eight. In Super Bowl VIII,
the Dolphins threw only seven passes, completing six.

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Eagles of 1948-49

The "duffel-bag dynasty" consisted of players who
had fought in World War II. In two seasons they out-
scored opponents 761-290. Each team outscored
opponents by more than 200 points, unprecedented
among back-to-back title teams.

The Eagles remain the only team to win back-to-back
titles by shutouts, beating the Chicago Cardinals 7-0
in a foot of snow and blanking the Los Angeles Rams
14-0 the following year. The team also lost the 1947
title to the Cardinals before beginning their two-year
dominance.

Coach: Earle (Greasy) Neale

Record: 20-3-1

Titles won: Two-1948-49.

Key players: RB Steve Van Buren, E Pete Pihos,
QB Tommy Thompson, C-LB Chuck Bednarik,
B Bosh Prichard, C-LB Alex Wojciechowicz, T Al
Wistert, T Vic Sears, FB-P Joe Muha, G Bucko Kilroy.

Area of excellence: Overall superior talent. Van Buren
led league in rushing both year and Thompson led league
in passing in 1948. Team led league in defense and in
points scored in 1949. They also led the league in punt-
ing and kicking.

Weakest aspect: Although the 1949 team led the league
in pass defense, it gave up 38 points to Bears in only
loss when Jim Keane caught eight passes for 127 yards.

Stat to know: Owner Alexis Thompson, strapped by
the high expenses of running a championship club, sold
Eagles before 1949 season to a team of 100 Philadel-
phians who paid $3,000 each.

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Lions of 1950s

Led by swashbuckling quarterback Bobby Layne, the
Lions battled the Cleveland Browns for supremacy
of the NFL in the early 1950s, beating the Browns
three times and losing to them once in title games.

Right before the 1957 season, coach Buddy Parker
abruptly quit. Later, Layne broke his leg. But the
Lions still prevailed under coach George Wilson
and backup quarterback Tobin Rote. Although the
Lions seldom led the league in any single category,
their superb balance and Layne's charismatic lead-
ership reigned.

Photo: Bobby Layne was a larger-than-life
quarterback with the Lions.
http://tinyurl.com/ypek52

Coaches: Buddy Parker 1951-56,
George Wilson 1957-64.

Record: 36-11-1 in 1952-53-54 and 1957.

Titles won: Three-1952-53, 1957.

Key players: QB Bobby Layne, DB Jack Christiansen,
RB Doak Walker, T Lou Creekmur, G Dick Stanfel,
NT Les Bingaman, E Cloyce Box, FB Leon Hart,
RB Bob Hoernschemeyer, LB Joe Schmidt, DB-P Yale
Lary, DB Jim David.

Area of excellence: Passing offense/quarterback; defense.
Quarterbacks Layne and Rote keyed offense; defense was
led by secondary consisting of Hall of Fame safeties
Christiansen and Lary, plus David, Don Doll and Bob
Smith-all of whom made at least one Pro Bowl.

Weakest aspect: Layne, who loved the night life as much
as he loved football, threw more interceptions than touch-
down passes in each championship season.

Stat to know: The Lions' defense always made more inter-
ceptions than Layne threw, grabbing 32 in 1952, 38 in
1953, and 25 in 1957.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 7:34 pm    Post subject: Re: NFL's -14- All-Time Greatest Teams (List 2 of 3) Reply with quote

observer wrote:
> Interesting sidenote, the Cowboys are requesting
> that fans wear white (as in the white NFC East
> Division Championship t-shirts) to this Sunday's
> game, and will be handing out white towels to
> be waved in Cowboys enthusiasm during the
> game.
>
> White, the w(right) 'color' this week, right, that
> is, -if- the Cowboys play well -and- win.
>
> Rayfield Wright and Randy White would be
> proud.

So would the KKK. :p
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 7:49 pm    Post subject: Re: NFL's -14- All-Time Greatest Teams (List 2 of 3) Reply with quote

observer wrote:
> ---
> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21460927/
> ---
>
> List 2 of 3
>
> . Cowboys of 1970s
> . Cowboys of 1990s
>
> . Dolphins of 1972
>
> . Eagles of 1948-49
>
> . Lions of 1950s
>
> ---
>
> Cowboys of 1970s
>
> From 1966-1985, coach Tom Landry's Cowboys set
> an NFL record of 20 consecutive winning seasons,
> including 13 division titles, 18 playoffs, and 12 NFL
> or NFC championship games. They won two Super
> Bowls and lost three in the 1970s, when they battled
> the Steelers for supremacy, losing to them 21-17 and
> 35-31 in Super Bowls X and XIII.
>
> Relying on Roger Staubach's clutch quarterbacking
> and Landry's Doomsday Defense, the Cowboys
> proudly wore the banner and sometimes carried the
> burden of being labeled "America's Team."
>
> Photo: Dallas quarterback Roger Staubach
> evades a New York Giants defender.
> http://tinyurl.com/yvclgz
>
> Coach: Tom Landry
>
> Record: 105-39 during 1970s.
>
> Titles: Two -- 1971, 1977
>
> Key players: QB Roger Staubach, DT Bob Lilly,
> T Rayfield Wright, CB Mel Renfro, LB Chuck Howley,
> G John Niland, LB Lee Roy Jordan, RB Calvin Hill,
> S Cliff Harris, WR Drew Pearson, DT Randy Wright,

WHO!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

This list just got disqualified.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 7:56 pm    Post subject: Re: NFL's -14- All-Time Greatest Teams (List 2 of 3) Reply with quote

"Venger" wrote ...
>
> observer wrote:
> >
> > ---
> > http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21460927/
> > ---
> >
> > List 2 of 3
> >
> > . Cowboys of 1970s
> > . Cowboys of 1990s
> >
> > . Dolphins of 1972
> >
> > . Eagles of 1948-49
> >
> > . Lions of 1950s
> >
> > ---
> >
> > Cowboys of 1970s
> >
> > From 1966-1985, coach Tom Landry's Cowboys set
> > an NFL record of 20 consecutive winning seasons,
> > including 13 division titles, 18 playoffs, and 12 NFL
> > or NFC championship games. They won two Super
> > Bowls and lost three in the 1970s, when they battled
> > the Steelers for supremacy, losing to them 21-17 and
> > 35-31 in Super Bowls X and XIII.
> >
> > Relying on Roger Staubach's clutch quarterbacking
> > and Landry's Doomsday Defense, the Cowboys
> > proudly wore the banner and sometimes carried the
> > burden of being labeled "America's Team."
> >
> > Photo: Dallas quarterback Roger Staubach
> > evades a New York Giants defender.
> > http://tinyurl.com/yvclgz
> >
> > Coach: Tom Landry
> >
> > Record: 105-39 during 1970s.
> >
> > Titles: Two -- 1971, 1977
> >
> > Key players: QB Roger Staubach, DT Bob Lilly,
> > T Rayfield Wright, CB Mel Renfro, LB Chuck Howley,
> > G John Niland, LB Lee Roy Jordan, RB Calvin Hill,
> > S Cliff Harris, WR Drew Pearson, DT Randy Wright,
>
> WHO!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
>
> This list just got disqualified.

Even the greatest teams fumble and toss inter-
ceptions, on occasion, some more than others,
and Randy White is, of course, the correction
on that mistake.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 9:13 pm    Post subject: Re: NFL's -14- All-Time Greatest Teams (List 2 of 3) Reply with quote

"observer" wrote in message
$0$32458$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.com...
>
> "Venger" wrote ...
> >
> > observer wrote:
> > >
> > > ---
> > > http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21460927/
> > > ---
> > >
> > > List 2 of 3
> > >
> > > . Cowboys of 1970s
> > > . Cowboys of 1990s
> > >
> > > . Dolphins of 1972
> > >
> > > . Eagles of 1948-49
> > >
> > > . Lions of 1950s
> > >
> > > ---
> > >
> > > Cowboys of 1970s
> > >
> > > From 1966-1985, coach Tom Landry's Cowboys set
> > > an NFL record of 20 consecutive winning seasons,
> > > including 13 division titles, 18 playoffs, and 12 NFL
> > > or NFC championship games. They won two Super
> > > Bowls and lost three in the 1970s, when they battled
> > > the Steelers for supremacy, losing to them 21-17 and
> > > 35-31 in Super Bowls X and XIII.
> > >
> > > Relying on Roger Staubach's clutch quarterbacking
> > > and Landry's Doomsday Defense, the Cowboys
> > > proudly wore the banner and sometimes carried the
> > > burden of being labeled "America's Team."
> > >
> > > Photo: Dallas quarterback Roger Staubach
> > > evades a New York Giants defender.
> > > http://tinyurl.com/yvclgz
> > >
> > > Coach: Tom Landry
> > >
> > > Record: 105-39 during 1970s.
> > >
> > > Titles: Two -- 1971, 1977
> > >
> > > Key players: QB Roger Staubach, DT Bob Lilly,
> > > T Rayfield Wright, CB Mel Renfro, LB Chuck Howley,
> > > G John Niland, LB Lee Roy Jordan, RB Calvin Hill,
> > > S Cliff Harris, WR Drew Pearson, DT Randy Wright,
> >
> > WHO!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
> >
> > This list just got disqualified.
>
> Even the greatest teams fumble and toss inter-
> ceptions, on occasion, some more than others,
> and Randy White is, of course, the correction
> on that mistake.
>
> ---

Interesting sidenote, the Cowboys are requesting
that fans wear white (as in the white NFC East
Division Championship t-shirts) to this Sunday's
game, and will be handing out white towels to
be waved in Cowboys enthusiasm during the
game.

White, the w(right) 'color' this week, right, that
is, -if- the Cowboys play well -and- win.

Rayfield Wright and Randy White would be
proud.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 9:44 pm    Post subject: Re: NFL's -14- All-Time Greatest Teams (List 2 of 3) Reply with quote

"Tarkus" wrote ...
>
> observer wrote:
> >
> > Interesting sidenote, the Cowboys are requesting
> > that fans wear white (as in the white NFC East
> > Division Championship t-shirts) to this Sunday's
> > game, and will be handing out white towels to
> > be waved in Cowboys enthusiasm during the
> > game.
> >
> > White, the w(right) 'color' this week, right, that
> > is, -if- the Cowboys play well -and- win.
> >
> > Rayfield Wright and Randy White would be
> > proud.
>
> So would the KKK. :p

Every team has white as part of its 'home'
and 'away' jerseys, it's just that the Cowboys
are one of the few teams that wears 'white'
as its normal 'home' jersey.

Fred Goodwin could probably elucidate for
us how/when that became the prominent Cow-
boys 'home' jersey.

Dark blue and silver and also prominent, and
much of the Cowboys clothing sold (the num-
ber one team in NFL sales) has dark blue as
its prominent color.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 3:40 am    Post subject: Re: NFL's -14- All-Time Greatest Teams (List 2 of 3) Reply with quote

On Mon, 7 Jan 2008 16:44:45 -0600, "observer"
wrote:

>
>"Tarkus" wrote ...
>>
>> observer wrote:
>> >
>> > Interesting sidenote, the Cowboys are requesting
>> > that fans wear white (as in the white NFC East
>> > Division Championship t-shirts) to this Sunday's
>> > game, and will be handing out white towels to
>> > be waved in Cowboys enthusiasm during the
>> > game.
>> >
>> > White, the w(right) 'color' this week, right, that
>> > is, -if- the Cowboys play well -and- win.
>> >
>> > Rayfield Wright and Randy White would be
>> > proud.
>>
>> So would the KKK. :p
>
>Every team has white as part of its 'home'
>and 'away' jerseys, it's just that the Cowboys
>are one of the few teams that wears 'white'
>as its normal 'home' jersey.
>
>Fred Goodwin could probably elucidate for
>us how/when that became the prominent Cow-
>boys 'home' jersey.

From the start I believe. They wanted to be seen the same everywhere
for marketing purposes and most team wear their colors at home which
allows Dallas to wear their primary jerseys (white) most of the time.
It wasn't until the myth of the dreaded blue jersey curse got started
that many teams forced Dallas to wear their blue on the road.

>Dark blue and silver and also prominent, and
>much of the Cowboys clothing sold (the num-
>ber one team in NFL sales) has dark blue as
>its prominent color.
>
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 2:08 pm    Post subject: Re: NFL's -14- All-Time Greatest Teams (List 2 of 3) Reply with quote

grinch@humbug.net wrote:
> On Mon, 7 Jan 2008 16:44:45 -0600, "observer"
> wrote:
>
>> "Tarkus" wrote ...
>>> observer wrote:
>>>> Interesting sidenote, the Cowboys are requesting
>>>> that fans wear white (as in the white NFC East
>>>> Division Championship t-shirts) to this Sunday's
>>>> game, and will be handing out white towels to
>>>> be waved in Cowboys enthusiasm during the
>>>> game.
>>>>
>>>> White, the w(right) 'color' this week, right, that
>>>> is, -if- the Cowboys play well -and- win.
>>>>
>>>> Rayfield Wright and Randy White would be
>>>> proud.
>>> So would the KKK. :p
>> Every team has white as part of its 'home'
>> and 'away' jerseys, it's just that the Cowboys
>> are one of the few teams that wears 'white'
>> as its normal 'home' jersey.
>>
>> Fred Goodwin could probably elucidate for
>> us how/when that became the prominent Cow-
>> boys 'home' jersey.
>
> From the start I believe. They wanted to be seen the same everywhere
> for marketing purposes and most team wear their colors at home which
> allows Dallas to wear their primary jerseys (white) most of the time.
> It wasn't until the myth of the dreaded blue jersey curse got started
> that many teams forced Dallas to wear their blue on the road.

That doesn't make a lot of sense, considering most teams in most sports
are going to MORE uniforms, not less. That way, you're more likely to
buy more than one Romo jersey, for example.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 8:39 pm    Post subject: Re: NFL's -14- All-Time Greatest Teams (List 2 of 3) Reply with quote

On Jan 7, 10:40 pm, gri...@humbug.net wrote:

> On Mon, 7 Jan 2008 16:44:45 -0600, "observer" wrote:

> >Fred Goodwin could probably elucidate for
> >us how/when that became the prominent Cow-
> >boys 'home' jersey.
>
> From the start I believe.

Not quite.

The Cowboys originally wore dark jersies at home, which most teams did
in 1960. Recall that from 1960 to 1963, the Cowboys wore the "double-
star" jersey, which is similar to the "throwback" jersey they wore
against the Packers, except that the 1960's jersey was royal blue, not
navy, and of course, did not have names on the back.

Tex Schramm redesigned the uniform for the 1964 season, and the white
jersey & pants have remained virtually unchanged since then.

> They wanted to be seen the same everywhere for marketing
> purposes

Not exactly.

It was "sameness" that Schramm was trying to avoid by wearing white at
home. According to Schramm (read his bio), he realized that by
wearing blue at home, and the vistors wearing white, that's all the
home crowd would ever see on the field: blue vs. white.

He reasoned that if the Cowboys wore white at home, the visitors would
then wear blue (NYG), green (Philly), red (Wash), etc. providing more
variety -- he hoped this might attract more fans to the games.

That may seem far-fetched today, but remember that in the early 60s,
the Cowboys competed for fan attention with the Dallas Texans of the
AFL; both teams devised various promos and ticket give-away schemes to
encourage fan interest.

But Schramm was a visionary who saw the potential of TV and marketing;
even before color television was prevalent, he reasoned that adding
more color to home games might stimulate fan and TV interest.

Hence, white jersies at home.

> and most team wear their colors at home which allows Dallas
> to wear their primary jerseys (white) most of the time. It
> wasn't until the myth of the dreaded blue jersey curse got
> started that many teams forced Dallas to wear their blue on
> the road.

It didn't take long for the St. Louis Cardinals and Washington
Redskins to begin wearing white at home when the Cowboys visited,
forcing the visitors to wear their blue jersies (I'm told the Browns
also wore white at home, and perhaps even before the Cowboys began
doing it).

The Eagles followed suit in the 80s. To their credit, as far as I
know, the Giants have never made the Cowboys wear blue when visiting
NY (or NJ), perhaps because the Giants are known informally as "Big
Blue" by the home fans.

Schramm changed the road jersies again from royal blue to the current
navy blue beginning with the '82 season. It is said he did this in an
effort to shake off the dreaded blue jersey "jinx", but I'm not sure
if Schramm really believed in the jinx.

During most of the 60s-70s-80s, the Cowboys wore blue only on the
road, and like most teams (other than this year's Giants), it was
tougher for the Cowboys to win on the road than at home -- so the
public began to associate the blue jersies with losing.

Some say the blue jersey "jinx" began when the Cowboys lost to the
Colts in SB V. I'm sure the Cowboys lost in blue prior to that time,
but the Super Bowl was on national television, and by that time, the
public was used to seeing the Cowboys wearing white most of the
time.

The Cowboys lost that game -- but the team was wearing blue because
(at the time) the NFL required the home team in the Super Bowl to wear
its dark jersies. At some point between SB V and SB 13 (the next time
the Cowboys were the home team), Schramm convinced the NFL to change
the jersey rule, so that the home team could pick its jersey, as was
(and is) the case during the regular season.

That's why the Cowboys wore blue as the home team in SB 27 (of course,
the very fact that Schramm lobbied the NFL to allow Dallas to wear
white in SB 13 lends some credence to the "jinx" and that possibly
Schramm himself may have believed it).

That's a more prosaic explanation (and probably longer than you you
needed), but of course, the great unwashed public prefers to ascribe a
"jinx" to the blue jersies, conveniently forgetting the times the
Cowboys actually win wearing blue (e.g., this year's Packer game), and
the times they've lost wearing white (e.g., SB 13 vs. the Steelers).
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 8:43 pm    Post subject: Re: NFL's -14- All-Time Greatest Teams (List 2 of 3) Reply with quote

On Jan 8, 11:08 am, Tarkus wrote:

> gri...@humbug.net wrote:

> > They wanted to be seen the same everywhere for marketing
> > purposes . . .
>
> That doesn't make a lot of sense, considering most teams in
> most sports are going to MORE uniforms, not less.  That way,
> you're more likely to buy more than one Romo jersey, for
> example.

Not one to miss an opportunity to pick his fans' pockets, you may have
noticed the proliferation of blue jersies since Jerry Jones bought the
Cowboys -- but to his credit, even Jones has left the white jersey
essentially unchanged since Schramm designed it in 1964.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 8:49 pm    Post subject: Re: NFL's -14- All-Time Greatest Teams (List 2 of 3) Reply with quote

On Jan 8, 5:39 pm, "Fred Goodwin, CMA" wrote:

> That's why the Cowboys wore blue as the home team in SB 27
^^^^

S/b "white"
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 9:32 pm    Post subject: Re: NFL's -14- All-Time Greatest Teams (List 2 of 3) Reply with quote

grinch@humbug.net wrote:
> On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 09:08:16 -0800, Tarkus
> wrote:
>
>> grinch@humbug.net wrote:
>>> On Mon, 7 Jan 2008 16:44:45 -0600, "observer"
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Tarkus" wrote ...
>>>>> observer wrote:
>>>>>> Interesting sidenote, the Cowboys are requesting
>>>>>> that fans wear white (as in the white NFC East
>>>>>> Division Championship t-shirts) to this Sunday's
>>>>>> game, and will be handing out white towels to
>>>>>> be waved in Cowboys enthusiasm during the
>>>>>> game.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> White, the w(right) 'color' this week, right, that
>>>>>> is, -if- the Cowboys play well -and- win.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rayfield Wright and Randy White would be
>>>>>> proud.
>>>>> So would the KKK. :p
>>>> Every team has white as part of its 'home'
>>>> and 'away' jerseys, it's just that the Cowboys
>>>> are one of the few teams that wears 'white'
>>>> as its normal 'home' jersey.
>>>>
>>>> Fred Goodwin could probably elucidate for
>>>> us how/when that became the prominent Cow-
>>>> boys 'home' jersey.
>>> From the start I believe. They wanted to be seen the same everywhere
>>> for marketing purposes and most team wear their colors at home which
>>> allows Dallas to wear their primary jerseys (white) most of the time.
>>> It wasn't until the myth of the dreaded blue jersey curse got started
>>> that many teams forced Dallas to wear their blue on the road.
>> That doesn't make a lot of sense, considering most teams in most sports
>> are going to MORE uniforms, not less. That way, you're more likely to
>> buy more than one Romo jersey, for example.
>
> Whether it makes sense or not, it is the truth. Look it up if you
> don't believe it.

Since their private, marketing strategy meetings are not public, there
is nothing to look up. Yeah, I can look up what they say in public, but
that has already gone through their marketing strategy filter.

All I know is NFL teams don't have throwback uniforms to be nostalgic,
nor do MLB teams have special Sunday uniforms because it's cool. In
both cases, it's done to sell more product, and I see no reason why
Dallas would be any different.

Having said that, I don't know why they wear white at home. Maybe it's
to be cooler; maybe it's to disrupt the routine of the visiting team.
Maybe it's even done for superstitious reasons, thought that seems
unlikely. In any case, I'm pretty sure it's NOT done for marketing
reasons, since that makes the least sense.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 10:57 pm    Post subject: Re: NFL's -14- All-Time Greatest Teams (List 2 of 3) Reply with quote

On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 09:08:16 -0800, Tarkus
wrote:

>grinch@humbug.net wrote:
>> On Mon, 7 Jan 2008 16:44:45 -0600, "observer"
>> wrote:
>>
>>> "Tarkus" wrote ...
>>>> observer wrote:
>>>>> Interesting sidenote, the Cowboys are requesting
>>>>> that fans wear white (as in the white NFC East
>>>>> Division Championship t-shirts) to this Sunday's
>>>>> game, and will be handing out white towels to
>>>>> be waved in Cowboys enthusiasm during the
>>>>> game.
>>>>>
>>>>> White, the w(right) 'color' this week, right, that
>>>>> is, -if- the Cowboys play well -and- win.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rayfield Wright and Randy White would be
>>>>> proud.
>>>> So would the KKK. :p
>>> Every team has white as part of its 'home'
>>> and 'away' jerseys, it's just that the Cowboys
>>> are one of the few teams that wears 'white'
>>> as its normal 'home' jersey.
>>>
>>> Fred Goodwin could probably elucidate for
>>> us how/when that became the prominent Cow-
>>> boys 'home' jersey.
>>
>> From the start I believe. They wanted to be seen the same everywhere
>> for marketing purposes and most team wear their colors at home which
>> allows Dallas to wear their primary jerseys (white) most of the time.
>> It wasn't until the myth of the dreaded blue jersey curse got started
>> that many teams forced Dallas to wear their blue on the road.
>
>That doesn't make a lot of sense, considering most teams in most sports
>are going to MORE uniforms, not less. That way, you're more likely to
>buy more than one Romo jersey, for example.

Whether it makes sense or not, it is the truth. Look it up if you
don't believe it.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 2:22 am    Post subject: Re: NFL's -14- All-Time Greatest Teams (List 2 of 3) Reply with quote

On Jan 8, 6:32 pm, Tarkus wrote:

> Having said that, I don't know why they wear white at home.

I answered that in another post in this thread.

> In any case, I'm pretty sure it's NOT done for marketing
> reasons, since that makes the least sense.

Well, originally, it *was* done for marketing reasons, but not in the
sense you mean. It wasn't intended to sell more jersies, since team
jersey sales weren't common back in the early 60s.

It was done in an effort to make home games more attractive to fans
and television (see Tex Schramm's biography).
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 3:38 am    Post subject: Re: NFL's -14- All-Time Greatest Teams (List 2 of 3) Reply with quote

On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 16:32:50 -0800, Tarkus
wrote:

>grinch@humbug.net wrote:
>> On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 09:08:16 -0800, Tarkus
>> wrote:
>>
>>> grinch@humbug.net wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 7 Jan 2008 16:44:45 -0600, "observer"
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Tarkus" wrote ...
>>>>>> observer wrote:
>>>>>>> Interesting sidenote, the Cowboys are requesting
>>>>>>> that fans wear white (as in the white NFC East
>>>>>>> Division Championship t-shirts) to this Sunday's
>>>>>>> game, and will be handing out white towels to
>>>>>>> be waved in Cowboys enthusiasm during the
>>>>>>> game.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> White, the w(right) 'color' this week, right, that
>>>>>>> is, -if- the Cowboys play well -and- win.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rayfield Wright and Randy White would be
>>>>>>> proud.
>>>>>> So would the KKK. :p
>>>>> Every team has white as part of its 'home'
>>>>> and 'away' jerseys, it's just that the Cowboys
>>>>> are one of the few teams that wears 'white'
>>>>> as its normal 'home' jersey.
>>>>>
>>>>> Fred Goodwin could probably elucidate for
>>>>> us how/when that became the prominent Cow-
>>>>> boys 'home' jersey.
>>>> From the start I believe. They wanted to be seen the same everywhere
>>>> for marketing purposes and most team wear their colors at home which
>>>> allows Dallas to wear their primary jerseys (white) most of the time.
>>>> It wasn't until the myth of the dreaded blue jersey curse got started
>>>> that many teams forced Dallas to wear their blue on the road.
>>> That doesn't make a lot of sense, considering most teams in most sports
>>> are going to MORE uniforms, not less. That way, you're more likely to
>>> buy more than one Romo jersey, for example.
>>
>> Whether it makes sense or not, it is the truth. Look it up if you
>> don't believe it.
>
>Since their private, marketing strategy meetings are not public, there
>is nothing to look up. Yeah, I can look up what they say in public, but
>that has already gone through their marketing strategy filter.
>
>All I know is NFL teams don't have throwback uniforms to be nostalgic,
>nor do MLB teams have special Sunday uniforms because it's cool. In
>both cases, it's done to sell more product, and I see no reason why
>Dallas would be any different.
>
>Having said that, I don't know why they wear white at home. Maybe it's
>to be cooler; maybe it's to disrupt the routine of the visiting team.
>Maybe it's even done for superstitious reasons, thought that seems
>unlikely. In any case, I'm pretty sure it's NOT done for marketing
>reasons, since that makes the least sense.

Whatever.

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